Crazy R8 vs bikes video

Crazy R8 vs bikes video

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br d

8,400 posts

226 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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ZX10R NIN said:
Well you'd better tell the two guys one in a 911 turbo & his mate in the MP4-12C who tried it on last weekend as I was leaving Brands Hatch last week to try harder then, as I left them for dead on a run from Eynsford to Edenbridge.


Mclaren vs Bike
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IteniLcLImU



Edited by ZX10R NIN on Monday 27th April 00:09
smile

Why were you asking for actual performance specs when all you needed to do was boast excitedly about some random person you raced last weekend!

That's scientifically settled then!

diddles

446 posts

199 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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RemaL said:
HAHA only got to 28 seconds and already spotted a rather silly mistake. 201BHP ZX10. I don't think so. Maybe 180 give or take BHP at the crank but 170'ish at the back wheel. 201BHP Zx10 my arse
Its not a ZX10. It's either a zx6 or a zx636. The other bike is a K6/7 gsxr 600/750.

ZX10R NIN

27,604 posts

125 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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Mr2Mike said:
If it takes a £120,000 car to get past an ageing 600cc sports bike, what's to be defensive about? Don't forget that most bike riders are also car drivers, but most car drivers don't have the bks to put their leg over a sports bike.

You seem to think your view is the only correct one, so what bike do you ride?

Edited by Mr2Mike on Monday 27th April 08:00
Hi Br d you'll note I added the clip on after to add facts to the debate it also shows on fast flowing corners where the bikes smaller footprint means we use more of the road therefore your grip advantage is diminished, and in terms of rolling acceleration the bike jumps away every time mainly due to the fact bikes are limited to 186mph so are geared for that.

As has been said on here before a 1000cc sportsbike will beat pretty much any production road(yes even a 650S Spider wink ) car, it would take an Atom or a 620R to give a bike a very hard time down an A road.



Edited by ZX10R NIN on Tuesday 28th April 04:04

Baryonyx

17,996 posts

159 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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That Ducati in the video looks absolutely insane. It makes the McLaren look as fast and agile as a bag of rocks!

IATM

3,794 posts

147 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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I am not proud of it now but when I was younger I have driven a few times like the R8. In retrospect as I am a few years older now it was rather stupid.

The rush was unbelievable.

Correction - just watched the full video now - I never ever have or will go up that close to someones rear bumper (aka brake test part of video). That is asking for trouble

Edited by IATM on Tuesday 28th April 10:51

popeyewhite

19,873 posts

120 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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ZX10R NIN said:
As has been said on here before a 1000cc sportsbike will beat pretty much any production road(yes even a 650S Spider wink ) car, it would take an Atom or a 620R to give a bike a very hard time down an A road.
Wrong. Crappy road surface, a few potholes and short straights combined with sharp bends: In other words lots of real, not fantasy, conditions. Despite the plethora of bikes that use the Cat and Fiddle most times the Boxster/Lotus will have the edge. Plenty of A roads like that around here.


blade7

11,311 posts

216 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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popeyewhite said:
Wrong. Crappy road surface, a few potholes and short straights combined with sharp bends: In other words lots of real, not fantasy, conditions. Despite the plethora of bikes that use the Cat and Fiddle most times the Boxster/Lotus will have the edge. Plenty of A roads like that around here.

Steven_RW

1,729 posts

202 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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Two observations to date:

1. It takes a VERY fast car to play with a 1000cc sports bike in a straight line. Youtube videos such as "Jimmy Supra" give you an idea of what is required. Most of us do NOT have a car remotely as fast as Jimmy's supra. Nearly no production car I can think of is similar in pace. That's just the way it is and so not really a big deal. The P1 and 918 vs the bike give a good demo of that at Brunters. P1 is a total weapon and still only plays the same game once at very high speeds.

2. Rider quality and knowledge of the road as soon as it becomes twisty seems to be the key variables. I had a play with three bikers the other day on my favourite country road. Fast chap on his gixxer 1000 was the only one that was playing the same game, but that has nothing to do with the speed of the other bikes (gixxer 750 and a 600). Gixxer 750 rider after he caught up at the end was stunned by the speed of the little car and actually asked me if it had a 3litre engine, which was fun. On a straightline motorway run either from a roll or a standstill my car would be annihilated by all three of the bikes that day. I just wanted to safely enjoy a bit of fun and there was no prizes being handed out at the end so "winning" wasn't really possible or a concern.

3. 600 cc bikes from say 100 mph up can be played with by quite fast cars. My experience is based on 600cc bikes from say 2000 to 2007. 750cc become harder to play with and needs a very fast car and ideal circumstances such as 100mph+ and 1000cc just isn't playable with by anything I have ever owned from any speed really. It's just mutual fun to play and should be left like that.

4. Riding a bike in a t-shirt at warp speed takes massive cahoonies and vastly larger ones than I would ever dream to claim I had, or most car drivers could claim to have. I cringe every time I watch a video like that.

Otispunkmeyer

12,593 posts

155 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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Rawwr said:
Idiots who can afford 100k+ supercars and nice bikes! and there's plenty more of them annoyingly! Heck I think I should just become an idiot as well. Trying not to be an idiot isn't getting me anywhere.

bennyboysvuk

3,491 posts

248 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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Not sure anyone's mentioned crests. I found that on some of my favourite roads in anything near as low as an Elise was hugely frustrating because oncoming cars could easily be hidden in dips beyond crests, which made overtaking impossible. On the bike, the crest was an overtaking spot as well as a wheelie-crest. Win-win.

IMHO, supercars can easily be as fast as bikes on the road, until you want to overtake a few cars. Then it doesn't matter what car you're in. It's impossible to overtake in a car like you can on a bike.

DoubleSix

11,715 posts

176 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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I hate this vid.

Ignoring your passengers wishes is probably the most dhead thing you can do in a car, getting too close to bikers closely follows.

I hate the way he's moving around in his seat and appears to be sat forward. Cock seems totally unprepared for any mishap, would be interesting to see him attempt to correct at that speed, doesn't appear to have the skill to do so...

br d

8,400 posts

226 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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ZX10R NIN said:
Hi Br d you'll note I added the clip on after to add facts to the debate it also shows on fast flowing corners where the bikes smaller footprint means we use more of the road therefore your grip advantage is diminished, and in terms of rolling acceleration the bike jumps away every time mainly due to the fact bikes are limited to 186mph so are geared for that.

As has been said on here before a 1000cc sportsbike will beat pretty much any production road(yes even a 650S Spider wink ) car, it would take an Atom or a 620R to give a bike a very hard time down an A road.



Edited by ZX10R NIN on Tuesday 28th April 04:04
Well I'll take your word for it, won't ever affect me anyway even in the 650S I can barely keep up with mopeds!

popeyewhite

19,873 posts

120 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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blade7 said:
popeyewhite said:
Wrong. Crappy road surface, a few potholes and short straights combined with sharp bends: In other words lots of real, not fantasy, conditions. Despite the plethora of bikes that use the Cat and Fiddle most times the Boxster/Lotus will have the edge. Plenty of A roads like that around here.
And yet you still feel compelled to post... .

jonm01

817 posts

237 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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Always thought this was the maddest one...

https://youtu.be/Xyvtsz7xZPw

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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popeyewhite said:
Despite the plethora of bikes that use the Cat and Fiddle most times the Boxster/Lotus will have the edge.
...in making you look like a bumder? smile


popeyewhite

19,873 posts

120 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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wormus said:
popeyewhite said:
Despite the plethora of bikes that use the Cat and Fiddle most times the Boxster/Lotus will have the edge.
...in making you look like a bumder? smile
Haha maybe. I was no faster on the C+F on my K5 GSXR than on my KTM. Well, a little maybe. However around Oulton the Suzuki was leagues ahead. Both were caught and kept up with by your everyday Evo, Scooby etc. My point, in response to a previous post, is that the C+F is an A road that plays against bike speed.

blade7

11,311 posts

216 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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popeyewhite said:
blade7 said:
popeyewhite said:
Wrong. Crappy road surface, a few potholes and short straights combined with sharp bends: In other words lots of real, not fantasy, conditions. Despite the plethora of bikes that use the Cat and Fiddle most times the Boxster/Lotus will have the edge. Plenty of A roads like that around here.
And yet you still feel compelled to post... .

Conscript

1,378 posts

121 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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jonm01 said:
Always thought this was the maddest one...

https://youtu.be/Xyvtsz7xZPw
What a lucky coincidence that they just had a calculator in the car that they were able to film that on.