Saxo banana'd by lamppost......
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Mr2Mike said:
The Nur said:
When I have kids they're having a defender, whether they like it or not.
No thanks, likely just as bad or worse than the Saxo in a side impact, and 1950's brakes and handling to ensure you minimise your chances of escaping a dodgy situation if you get into one.Northernchimp said:
Hate to speak ill of the (believed) dead, but I wonder if he gave it a boot full on the space saver and that's why he ended up going sideways?
If it was as wet as when that photo was taken, it would not have taken much of a boot?...XK's don't have a LSD do they? so any sign of power would spin that straight up!!!
Mr2Mike said:
The Nur said:
When I have kids they're having a defender, whether they like it or not.
No thanks, likely just as bad or worse than the Saxo in a side impact, and 1950's brakes and handling to ensure you minimise your chances of escaping a dodgy situation if you get into one.
Side impact protection is taken care of with this
Edited by skyrover on Monday 27th April 20:46
WinstonWolf said:
My kids are about to start driving, there's no way I'd ever let them buy a Saxo, they're made of reconstituted cheese slices. I tried to pick one up on the main chassis member once, it just started folding over the wooden packer on the jack. No structural rigidity whatsoever 
My Son's just away to start as well, yes it's maybe a bit big, but he's got a mk2 Volvo S40 1.6, if he passes it's only £150 more for insurance than a Corsa or Fiesta with him being the main driver. 
matt50 said:
Sixteen or seventeen years ago, I really wanted (an old-style) Mini for my first car, but my Dad stopped me, saying they weren't safe enough, so helped me buy a Saxo instead. I vividly remember the salesman in the Citroen garage hard-selling the fact that they had a 'safety cell' (pointing to a ridge in the roof-lining) which supposedly protected the passengers in case of an accident - something tells me he was telling porkies. I did love my Saxo, but am very grateful I never needed to test out the 'safety cell'.
He wouldn't have been lying, they've been marketing cars as having 'safety cells' since at least the early 70s. I know the Vauxhall Chevette brochure I have uses the term, with a modern style illustration of an unharmed passenger compartment surrounded by crumpled crumple zones, and I don't know if I'd want to ram one of those sideways into a lamp-post either. Northernchimp said:
Hate to speak ill of the (believed) dead, but I wonder if he gave it a boot full on the space saver and that's why he ended up going sideways?
Judging from the lack of damage to the wheel but the heavily damaged wheelers, my guess is the original wheel was shattered in the crash, and that space saver was fitted to make moving the car easier C. Grimsley said:
I went out to a recovery yard once to collect a car, it was safe to say I couldn't collect it.
Both parties unfortunately died I was told.
Nasty.
Carl
fBoth parties unfortunately died I was told.
Nasty.
Carl
Edited by C. Grimsley on Monday 27th April 19:47
Edited by C. Grimsley on Monday 27th April 19:47
king lor', that used to be a Jag?Mr2Mike said:
The Nur said:
When I have kids they're having a defender, whether they like it or not.
No thanks, likely just as bad or worse than the Saxo in a side impact, and 1950's brakes and handling to ensure you minimise your chances of escaping a dodgy situation if you get into one.Coil springs and disc brakes, straight off... umm... original Range Rover. So that's late '60s brakes and handling.
If you want '50s brakes and handling, you want a series - so 1950s performance, too.
<looks out window at 88">
I may have a mildly cavalier attitude to EuroNCAP (hell, look at the fleet - the most modern and solid vehicle is a Pug 205), but I think the Landy's actually the one I'd least like to hit anything solid in. It won't absorb any of the energy, and there's lots of rather solid and pointy bits of interior in all sorts of uncomfortable places.
TooMany2cvs said:
I may have a mildly cavalier attitude to EuroNCAP (hell, look at the fleet - the most modern and solid vehicle is a Pug 205), but I think the Landy's actually the one I'd least like to hit anything solid in. It won't absorb any of the energy, and there's lots of rather solid and pointy bits of interior in all sorts of uncomfortable places.
Indeed... the land rover is terrible for crash protection at anything less than low speed impacts where the other vehicle becomes the crush zone.At 70mph into a big tree... in a defender you are dead.
20mph into the tree though, and you simply replace the front bumper
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