Sod the 918/La Ferrari/P1 - this is what I would buy
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Ok. Running costs a bit higher. But this is the ultimate boy's toy and seems absurdly cheap considering the rarity, beauty and the fact that however much fun a car might be it can't come close to the rush you would get from flying aerobatics in a genuine WWII fighter. And the noise!! Plus you could just sit snd look at it for hours (days?!).
Seems bonkers that there are but a handful of airworthy Spitfires around and far fewer than roadworthy F1s but the price is so much less.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/apr/27/sec...
Seems bonkers that there are but a handful of airworthy Spitfires around and far fewer than roadworthy F1s but the price is so much less.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/apr/27/sec...
Quite.
I have never understood why these are less than some cars.
I remember once, years ago, at something on the track at Goodwood, with lots of silly cars, someone getting one of these out of a hanger.
Gradually all attention switched from the cars to the Spitfire.
It was so evocative.
If I had £2.5m to spend on a toy, I know that I'd rather have a Spitfire than any car.
I have never understood why these are less than some cars.
I remember once, years ago, at something on the track at Goodwood, with lots of silly cars, someone getting one of these out of a hanger.
Gradually all attention switched from the cars to the Spitfire.
It was so evocative.
If I had £2.5m to spend on a toy, I know that I'd rather have a Spitfire than any car.
Chris Evans was talking to John Romaine on his show yesterday morning.
The American owner actually has 2 of them. This one is being auctioned with all proceeds going to the RAF benevolent fund as stated. He is gifting the other to a museum in the UK.
That's about £5M so quite a gesture.
This one is being semi dismantled and then put back together again in the War Office rooms in London before the auction if anyone wants to go and see it.
The owners initial partner, Simon Marsh, was killed a couple of years ago in a gliding accident.
The American owner actually has 2 of them. This one is being auctioned with all proceeds going to the RAF benevolent fund as stated. He is gifting the other to a museum in the UK.
That's about £5M so quite a gesture.
This one is being semi dismantled and then put back together again in the War Office rooms in London before the auction if anyone wants to go and see it.
The owners initial partner, Simon Marsh, was killed a couple of years ago in a gliding accident.
Davey S2 said:
Chris Evans was talking to John Romaine on his show yesterday morning.
The American owner actually has 2 of them. This one is being auctioned with all proceeds going to the RAF benevolent fund as stated. He is gifting the other to a museum in the UK.
That's about £5M so quite a gesture.
This one is being semi dismantled and then put back together again in the War Office rooms in London before the auction if anyone wants to go and see it.
The owners initial partner, Simon Marsh, was killed a couple of years ago in a gliding accident.
is that The chap in this article? There's another chap who owns a couple but is very shy of publicity with a similar name, wasn't sure if he'd requested not to be named or if there are multiple guys with multiple spitfires. What a nice place to be! And what a great gesture! The American owner actually has 2 of them. This one is being auctioned with all proceeds going to the RAF benevolent fund as stated. He is gifting the other to a museum in the UK.
That's about £5M so quite a gesture.
This one is being semi dismantled and then put back together again in the War Office rooms in London before the auction if anyone wants to go and see it.
The owners initial partner, Simon Marsh, was killed a couple of years ago in a gliding accident.
Ferruccio said:
Quite.
I have never understood why these are less than some cars.
I'd always assumed that a large part of it was down to the usability, or lack of it. Price and rarity notwithstanding, almost anyone can jump into a 250 GTO or a McLaren F1 and drive it on the roads or on a track and get invited to some quite nice events in it, all with relatively little maintenance and upkeep. In contrast, a plane, especially one such as this, requires specialist skills and training to operate, expensive specialist care and maintenance to keep it airworthy, you can't just jump into it to pop to the shops on a whim, and unless you live at an airfield you can't keep in conveniently at home. It's still a very nice toy, arguably even better than any car, but it just requires a lot more effort from it's keeper. I feel that old Formula 1 cars are somewhat held back value-wise in the same way.I have never understood why these are less than some cars.
I think i read somewhere on Goodwood what it takes to get a rating for spitfires and that was quite a way through different models. Starting with your (hopefully already attained) license then going to open singleseaters, taildraggers, high powered taildraggers and so on until you're finally allowed and able to fly the Spitfire.
flyingjolly said:
I think i read somewhere on Goodwood what it takes to get a rating for spitfires and that was quite a way through different models. Starting with your (hopefully already attained) license then going to open singleseaters, taildraggers, high powered taildraggers and so on until you're finally allowed and able to fly the Spitfire.
Yes its at Boultbee :http://shop.goodwood.com/collections/flying-days/p...
thegreenhell said:
In contrast, a plane, especially one such as this, requires specialist skills and training to operate...
True, but kind of funny when you think they had everyday people flying them around in ww2. Notably the woman who transported them around the country, much respect.thegreenhell said:
Ferruccio said:
Quite.
I have never understood why these are less than some cars.
I'd always assumed that a large part of it was down to the usability, or lack of it. Price and rarity notwithstanding, almost anyone can jump into a 250 GTO or a McLaren F1 and drive it on the roads or on a track and get invited to some quite nice events in it, all with relatively little maintenance and upkeep. In contrast, a plane, especially one such as this, requires specialist skills and training to operate, expensive specialist care and maintenance to keep it airworthy, you can't just jump into it to pop to the shops on a whim, and unless you live at an airfield you can't keep in conveniently at home. It's still a very nice toy, arguably even better than any car, but it just requires a lot more effort from it's keeper. I feel that old Formula 1 cars are somewhat held back value-wise in the same way.I have never understood why these are less than some cars.
flyingjolly said:
I think i read somewhere on Goodwood what it takes to get a rating for spitfires and that was quite a way through different models. Starting with your (hopefully already attained) license then going to open singleseaters, taildraggers, high powered taildraggers and so on until you're finally allowed and able to fly the Spitfire.
I worked out how much it would cost to get to fly the Spitfire if you did all the courses, working your way up, and it came to around £100k. I don't think that included a PPL which is around £10k plus you would probably need some post qualification experience so let's add another £10k. So quite expensive but for those with many millions not prohibitive.I remember as a teenager being at the Strathallan Aircraft Collection auction in 1981. Aircraft sold included a Hurricane and a Mosquito.
The auctioneer was the Hon Patrick Lindsay. He flew in in his own Spitfire. Flying jacket over Saville Row suit, disembarked, marched into hanger and started proceedings...
Quite the most gobsmacking thing I think I'll ever witness.
The auctioneer was the Hon Patrick Lindsay. He flew in in his own Spitfire. Flying jacket over Saville Row suit, disembarked, marched into hanger and started proceedings...
Quite the most gobsmacking thing I think I'll ever witness.
Davey S2 said:
Chris Evans was talking to John Romaine on his show yesterday morning.
The American owner actually has 2 of them. This one is being auctioned with all proceeds going to the RAF benevolent fund as stated. He is gifting the other to a museum in the UK.
That's about £5M so quite a gesture.
This one is being semi dismantled and then put back together again in the War Office rooms in London before the auction if anyone wants to go and see it.
The owners initial partner, Simon Marsh, was killed a couple of years ago in a gliding accident.
Chris Evans sounded rather pensive during that interview. I wonder if he will be the new owner? The American owner actually has 2 of them. This one is being auctioned with all proceeds going to the RAF benevolent fund as stated. He is gifting the other to a museum in the UK.
That's about £5M so quite a gesture.
This one is being semi dismantled and then put back together again in the War Office rooms in London before the auction if anyone wants to go and see it.
The owners initial partner, Simon Marsh, was killed a couple of years ago in a gliding accident.
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