Fences to decrease visibility at roundabouts
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It's to make drivers slow down, even to have to stop. Idiotic in my view, one example being that if traffic on the roundabout has a reasonable velocity and is fairly busy it can be hard to get out into the flow when stopped, whereas a planned drive to slot in (like using a slip road properly on a motorway) always works fine . But we don't have "planed drives" nowadays, it seems to have been replaced by "the lowest common denominator" of driver.
There is also the road safety budget which needs to be spent in this financial year (to ensure they get the same settlement next financial year), so the cycle goes on .
There is also the road safety budget which needs to be spent in this financial year (to ensure they get the same settlement next financial year), so the cycle goes on .
To make matters worse the roundabout in question is at the end of a 70mph zone with large sweeping corner and they have put about half a mile of bump paint or whatever it is that they put down. If this is required to make people see what is in front of them they shouldn't be driving!
The last thing you need when braking in an emergency in any case is loads of close together painted bump strips to unsettle the car/bike, especially as it's going round a corner.
Totally unnecessary IMO
The last thing you need when braking in an emergency in any case is loads of close together painted bump strips to unsettle the car/bike, especially as it's going round a corner.
Totally unnecessary IMO
It is idiotic, the idea of a roundabout is to keep the traffic flowing, to make junctions safe without the need for traffic lights....
Putting these feneces up to stop the view to your right so you have to be prepared to stop at every roundabout is idiotic.
Are we too stupid to use roundabouts safely? Who' says so?
The accidents I have seen at roundabouts are slow speed nudges / stop starting traffic, ie not from people cruising through at speed becasue the driver could see the road was clear to proceed safely.
Putting these feneces up to stop the view to your right so you have to be prepared to stop at every roundabout is idiotic.
Are we too stupid to use roundabouts safely? Who' says so?
The accidents I have seen at roundabouts are slow speed nudges / stop starting traffic, ie not from people cruising through at speed becasue the driver could see the road was clear to proceed safely.
The one in Wigan for the M6 J25 slip road is a royal pain in the proverbial. Designed specifically so that only the front car in the inevitable queue that forms can see what's going on - there is rarely anything approaching from the right, and there would be good visibility for around 80-100m if the barriers weren't there.
Idiotic if you're bothered because you can't approach a roundabout at warp speed and hammer it round without braking.
Genius if you aren't the above and appreciate it reduces approach speeds and potential accidents both minor and major while only delaying your important journey by a matter of seconds!
Genius if you aren't the above and appreciate it reduces approach speeds and potential accidents both minor and major while only delaying your important journey by a matter of seconds!
IainT said:
Jasandjules said:
f***ng bumps that can cause a loss of traction in the wet when slowing down for a roundabout.
I've never had a loss of traction over them and roundabouts, etc. How late had you left your braking?Having a bumpy painted surface on the entrance to a corner is idiotic, putting fences up so you can't see what's coming more so.
Now I know this doesn't apply to the PH driving Gods but clearly people aren't able to use roundabouts and keep crashing, hence why someone felt it necessary to install something. The question to really ask is before and after statics to see if they actually work.
As for the thermo strips across the carriageway, there must be history of people not being aware (daydream) and hitting the roundabout, therefore something was installed to help highlight the roundabout (again not applicable to PH users).
As for the thermo strips across the carriageway, there must be history of people not being aware (daydream) and hitting the roundabout, therefore something was installed to help highlight the roundabout (again not applicable to PH users).
R8Steve said:
IainT said:
Jasandjules said:
f***ng bumps that can cause a loss of traction in the wet when slowing down for a roundabout.
I've never had a loss of traction over them and roundabouts, etc. How late had you left your braking?Having a bumpy painted surface on the entrance to a corner is idiotic, putting fences up so you can't see what's coming more so.
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