Selling something, buyer wants to pay cash...

Selling something, buyer wants to pay cash...

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Petrus1983

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8,693 posts

162 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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Just wondering what the technicalities and legalities are around people buying with cash these days. I've been lining up a buyer for something (a picture, but can't see a difference with a car etc) for a while and he's just come back after agreeing the price saying he'll be paying in cash. Will I ever be able to pay it into my bank, and if so what will I need? The buyer is from a foreign country, just incase that makes a difference.

crackthatoff

3,312 posts

213 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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i sold my elise for 15 grand in used bank notes, We both went directly to the bank and deposited it to make sure the notes were genuine, then i signed over the car whilst there. easy peesy

BoRED S2upid

19,692 posts

240 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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Why wouldn't you be able to pay it into a bank? If they ask you any questions tell them it's non of their business or you won it!

Petrus1983

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162 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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BoRED S2upid said:
Why wouldn't you be able to pay it into a bank? If they ask you any questions tell them it's non of their business or you won it!
I've heard of people having troubles, so just wondered what documentation I needed. It's just shy of £85k.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/saving/article-...

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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Petrus1983 said:
I've heard of people having troubles, so just wondered what documentation I needed. It's just shy of £85k.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/saving/article-...
Warn them in advance and you should be OK.

Biggest issue would be security - not just dud notes, but getting done over at either exchange, or going to the bank or overnight or some such.

I am all for a buying stuff for cash but I can't think of a legitimate reason why someone would want to pay for something worth £85K in cash.


Nezquick

1,461 posts

126 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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Must be a nice picture!

I can't see it being looked on too favourably if a man walked into a car dealership and plonked £85k in used bank notes down to pay for a car. It would raise all kinds of money laundering questions surely?

BoRED S2upid

19,692 posts

240 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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Petrus1983 said:
I've heard of people having troubles, so just wondered what documentation I needed. It's just shy of £85k.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/saving/article-...
Oh. No wonder your asking a couple of grand and 85 is a different kettle of fish! I'd be more worried about checking them all than paying them in.

Petrus1983

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Thursday 30th April 2015
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desolate said:
Warn them in advance and you should be OK.

Biggest issue would be security - not just dud notes, but getting done over at either exchange, or going to the bank or overnight or some such.

I am all for a buying stuff for cash but I can't think of a legitimate reason why someone would want to pay for something worth £85K in cash.
I'm not worried about dud notes, but have listened carefully to the rest. I'd be paying it in the same day, hence not wanting issues with it.

toohangry

416 posts

109 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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desolate said:
Warn them in advance and you should be OK.

Biggest issue would be security - not just dud notes, but getting done over at either exchange, or going to the bank or overnight or some such.

I am all for a buying stuff for cash but I can't think of a legitimate reason why someone would want to pay for something worth £85K in cash.
Because they've sold something illegitimately for more, in cash?

I'd have no issue selling to the buyer OP. I would request the handover was done within a bank though.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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toohangry said:
I would request the handover was done within a bank though.
Seems sensible to me,

Still can't think of a legit reason why anyone would have 85K in cash and want to do a deal this way.

nickd01

610 posts

215 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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It would certainly raise internal questions in the bank where it came from.

I'm pretty sure money laundering regulations state any cash payments £20k(?) have to be verified in some way when being paid in.

Why does he have to pay cash? Can't he pay it into his own account and then transfer it to you?

I'd not accept it myself, as if there are any issues later on I think the bank can 'freeze' that cash until it's proved to be legit.

21TonyK

11,519 posts

209 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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desolate said:
Seems sensible to me,

Still can't think of a legit reason why anyone would have 85K in cash and want to do a deal this way.
Not that unusual in (for example) Spain where a lot of property deals will involve large cash elements. Probably find its money that has been out of the banking loop for a while.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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21TonyK said:
Not that unusual in (for example) Spain where a lot of property deals will involve large cash elements. Probably find its money that has been out of the banking loop for a while.
Therefore not legit.

st load of cash to top up the official position. It happens but it's not really legit!

Petrus1983

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162 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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Genuinely appreciate the feedback - but mainly wondering on the legality/diligence issues. The money had come from the guy selling UK assets that he now wants to buy a picture with, rather than anything else. I understand why he wants to work this way, just more worried how it would affect me (other than finally finding an excuse to buy a 550!!).

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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Petrus1983 said:
Genuinely appreciate the feedback - but mainly wondering on the legality/diligence issues. The money had come from the guy selling UK assets that he now wants to buy a picture with, rather than anything else. I understand why he wants to work this way, just more worried how it would affect me (other than finally finding an excuse to buy a 550!!).
If it's legitimate then ring your bank and tell them.
That will give you a steer as to how much trouble you will have.

If it's demonstrable tax paid clean money the worst that will happen is some PITA form filling and time wasting.

Petrus1983

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Thursday 30th April 2015
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desolate said:
If it's legitimate then ring your bank and tell them.
That will give you a steer as to how much trouble you will have.

If it's demonstrable tax paid clean money the worst that will happen is some PITA form filling and time wasting.
Thanks - I'll pop along to my bank tomorrow and find out in advance what they'll need.

Simpo Two

85,404 posts

265 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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You could always say cash is too awkward/risky and ask for bank transfer/BACS/CHAPS etc.

Smells a bit like money laundering/something dodgy quite frankly.

Ilovejapcrap

3,281 posts

112 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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If it's real money and pays you who cares ?

Petrus1983

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Thursday 30th April 2015
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Simpo Two said:
Smells a bit like money laundering/something dodgy quite frankly.
Whilst I don't think it is, I think proving its not will be complex - I'll find out, but annoyingly I'm having 2nd thoughts - unless someone wants a couple of Banksy's in exchange for a Lamborghini in a stupid colour!

rich1231

17,331 posts

260 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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Ilovejapcrap said:
If it's real money and pays you who cares ?
As it can seized if it can be proven the receiver of the money knows or suspects its dodgy.