The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 10]

The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 10]

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m3sye

26,231 posts

201 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Exactly - you dont hear UTD fans complaining that they had Di Maria/Falcao on the bench last year -
Or City with Dzeko, Bony etc

We need a big squad if we want to compete for top 4

I am also not passing judgement on our transfer window when it only opened 7 days ago - I can see quite a bit more movement yet.

As for passing on rumours, that is fine but you passed on a rumour then questioned our transfer policy on the back of it - that just stupid

I can still see at least 4 more players leaving - Borini will be off next, I do think Mario will be shipped out (prob on loan with option to buy), Ricky, Enrique, and maybe a couple of others (Raheem being 1)
I think he would like to turn Can into a Matic type player

conanius

743 posts

198 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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I don't know about others, but I feel pleased we have some depth this year. League, two domestic cups, and Europa league would be impossible with our recent times approach of 12-14 good players and then just pack in the youth.

I'm still a bit confused about Benteke. I wonder if it's because he realises when we came so close two years ago we simply didn't have a plan b, and maybe Benteke can offer that somehow. I think we need more of a Van Nistlerooy type player really. Target men like Benteke don't work for us - Andy Carrol anyone ?

m3sye

26,231 posts

201 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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The more I am reading about Benteke from Villa fans the more I am thinking he is anything but than just a target man ...

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

212 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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conanius said:
Target men like Benteke don't work for us - Andy Carrol anyone ?
Go and watch some videos of Benteke, he's not just a target man. A comparison with Costa or Drogba is a more informed comparison.

Black can man

31,838 posts

168 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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jammy_basturd said:
Black can man said:
Do you not think that Mr Rodgers has just too many players to pick from & is uncertain of how best to utilise his talented squad for the best ?


It certainly looks this way from the outside looking in.
This has to be trolling - there is no possible way you could suggest such a thing before a ball has even been kicked?!
Jeez what is it with this thread, you are all speculating as to what system Mr Rodgers may decide to play with all kinds of elaborate systems & formations, You have loads of good players meaning some will not make the best starting XI .

I'm sure some on here just want to argue rather than talk about Liverpool or football.

fk me it's not even August yet !

revrange

1,182 posts

184 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Black can man said:
Do you not think that Mr Rodgers has just too many players to pick from & is uncertain of how best to utilise his talented squad for the best ?


It certainly looks this way from the outside looking in.
YES! I think that was half the problem last year, he just didn't know his best starting 11. certainly results improved when he settled on a side making a few changes rather than changing 5-6 players each game.


Flip Martian

19,647 posts

190 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Black can man said:
Jeez what is it with this thread, you are all speculating as to what system Mr Rodgers may decide to play with all kinds of elaborate systems & formations, You have loads of good players meaning some will not make the best starting XI .

I'm sure some on here just want to argue rather than talk about Liverpool or football.

fk me it's not even August yet !
For once I agree with the learned gentleman. smile Seriously chaps, just because the club will be buying players you can't see fitting in the team doesn't mean BR has no clue how to fit them in. And its far better to have more players for different positions (regardless of whether you think they're mediocre or not).

We're signing players and improving the squad. Let's be happy about that and try and be positive until proven otherwise.

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

212 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Exactly. How someone can say that it looks like BR is uncertain at how best to utilise his players, when it is early July and he isn't even close to picking his first pre-season team yet?!!

BR - if you're not trolling, please enlighten us all about what specifically led you to your conclusion about BR?

m3sye

26,231 posts

201 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Liverpool's latest offer of £6 million has been rejected by Burnley. They want £10 million. A tribunal is set to determine the price of Danny Ings. (Tony Barrett)

anonymous-user

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54 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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m3sye said:
Liverpool's latest offer of £6 million has been rejected by Burnley. They want £10 million. A tribunal is set to determine the price of Danny Ings. (Tony Barrett)
Just posted this in the Spuds thread, seems their bid may have stitched you up slightly


http://www.espnfc.com/soccer-transfers/story/25146...

Liverpool have offered around £6m for the England under-21 international, while the Clarets are looking for a fee of closer to £10m.

They accepted a bid of £12m from Tottenham for Ings in June, and that would be taken into account by a tribunal committee when setting a fee.

It means that Liverpool face the prospect of paying substantially more for the player than they had hoped.

m3sye

26,231 posts

201 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Cie

18,781 posts

193 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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m3sye said:
anonymous said:
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http://www.espnfc.co.uk/story/2514619/danny-ings-l...

anonymous-user

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54 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Cie said:
Cheers CIE, silly me copying the post which PH trims the link

To be fair Sye the meat of it is in what I quoted, the implication being that Spuds bid will be taken into account in the tribunal and may mean you have to pay more than the £6m

Cie

18,781 posts

193 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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No worries, just showing Sye that it took me a whole two clicks to find it myself.

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m3sye

26,231 posts

201 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Cie said:
No worries, just showing Sye that it took me a whole two clicks to find it myself.

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I have to now but a description with all my links so I am not spending anytime searching when people make mistakes wink haha

type-r

14,046 posts

213 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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anonymous said:
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This part is BS - Spurs did this solely and knowingly that Ings wanted to go to Liverpool, therefore skew the tribunal fee unfairly, allegedly of course.

NRS

22,143 posts

201 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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kentlad said:
RedTrident said:
Maybe we'll flog Lallana or moneyball style cash in on Coutinho. Mario might also leave yet.
I really hope you're wrong about Coutinho, we should be building a team around him. Not looking to cash in. Would also like to keep Lallana, feel like his best is yet to come. Mario can go, in fact if i were FSG i'd be looking to loan him out or better yet just admit defeat and sell him. If anyone would take him that is.
Can't see us getting rid of Coutinho. I don't see FSG just making good players to sell them, rather just not wanting to pay top money for top players and instead try and grow them. Suarez effectively forced his move, as is Sterling. Mario and some of the other strikers will have a "For Sale" notice but just no one will probably want them, unless we make a big loss.

Flip Martian

19,647 posts

190 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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type-r said:
This part is BS - Spurs did this solely and knowingly that Ings wanted to go to Liverpool, therefore skew the tribunal fee unfairly, allegedly of course.
Just as that report above says the Spurs bid would be taken into account by the tribunal - a few weeks ago there was a report about it which said any Spurs bid would NOT be taken into account. Who knows?

m3sye

26,231 posts

201 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Not sure where anyone would even get the idea of us wanting to sell Coutinho from??

Yes in a year or so a big bid may come in for him and if his head his turned he may go but apart from that we wont be selling him - we are far from skint

RedTrident

8,290 posts

235 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Moneyball as a concept is what exactly?

I've not said I want to see Coutinho sold, I don't think anyone has.

And Sye, my reflections on our transfer policy isn't based on a rumour. It's based upon 3 years of signings.

I'd much rather see a manager with a clear ideology and buy players that fit. Mr Rodgers seems to have a preference for a 433 where the front 3 are fast, mobile, press and interchange positions. It's pretty much a reason why we often played last season with 3 strikers on the bench and none on the pitch. My opinion is that Benteke does not fit that style of play.

I also think the criticism of Mr Rodgers not knowing who his best 11 are is fair. In fact I'd say last season he didn't even know what his preferred formation was nor which player suited what position.

Of course I'm pleased that we're attracting talent and have a much stronger squad. I'm doubtful that Mr Rodgers knows how to mould these players, old and new, into a winning team.

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