The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 10]

The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 10]

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revrange

1,182 posts

184 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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RedTrident said:
They should all be worried. He's going to make us competitors again and I have no doubt he'll attract top talent.
Agreed his name will have pull, that was BR major problem, he was a no one in Europe. I am not sure Sterling would have left if he'd had the chance to work with Kloop, Sanchez still have preferred london? We will never know, but Kloop has pull in that department.

Next question where do people see us getting to this year with him?

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

212 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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revrange said:
Next question where do people see us getting to this year with him?
I've seen a few people ask this. I'd say it's far too early to ask, I don't think we can have much of an idea before at least 3 or 4 games have been played.

TEKNOPUG

18,943 posts

205 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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revrange said:
Next question where do people see us getting to this year with him?
6th

HTH

cerb4.5lee

30,491 posts

180 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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SydneyBridge said:
to the tune of Agadoo

Juuuuuuurrrrrgen Klopp Klopp Klopp
He’s the new king of the Kop
Jurgen Klopp Klopp Klopp
He will take us to the top
Champions League, Fa Cup
He will win the f***ing lot
With Jurgen Klopp Klopp Klopp
He’s the new king of the Kop
I like that and it had me singing along to it! biggrin

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

247 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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RedTrident said:
DSLiverpool said:
What would be interesting is asking the players to stand on the pitch where they thing they perform the best, I guess in some places we would be 4 deep and in others no-one at all.
That I would like to see. It'll be interesting to see how he plays Benteke.

We have a very unbalanced team imo. 4231 means Sturridge as one of the attacking 3 if Benteke is to be on the pitch at the same time. 442 diamond means Lallana and Firmino compete with Coutinho for one place.

Then we look at the 2 defensive/central midfield positions. Can, Milner, Allen, Henderson and Lucas. It's just average.

Personally I'd go for 442 diamond with

Mignolet
Clyne Skrtel Sakho Moreno
Milner Lucas Can
Coutinho
Sturridge Benteke (Ings until he's fit)

I think Lallana and Allen are on borrowed time.
This is not a personal pop RT, so don't take it so....

However, I think these Liverpool threads are crazy. The amount of armchair managers on here, its the only thread which has this. Constant comments about who is good, who is not, what positions your players should be played in, who should be sold, who should be bought, who should be loaned, how the backroom should be managed, what shape team should be played.... who should be sacked....

this constant, often critical analysis - its frankly reaching ridiculous levels.

You have a new manager, its his job. No, really, it is.

This is the only PH football thread that follows this pattern.

I think it would be healthy to give it a break. Both for fans and the club.

Sit back and enjoy. And if you cant enjoy it, let it wash over you....



phil_cardiff

7,067 posts

208 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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TTmonkey said:
This is not a personal pop RT, so don't take it so....

However, I think these Liverpool threads are crazy. The amount of armchair managers on here, its the only thread which has this. Constant comments about who is good, who is not, what positions your players should be played in, who should be sold, who should be bought, who should be loaned, how the backroom should be managed, what shape team should be played.... who should be sacked....

this constant, often critical analysis - its frankly reaching ridiculous levels.

You have a new manager, its his job. No, really, it is.

This is the only PH football thread that follows this pattern.

I think it would be healthy to give it a break. Both for fans and the club.

Sit back and enjoy. And if you cant enjoy it, let it wash over you....
Amen.

The occasional tactical debate is good but it happens too much here and nobody will concede a point or acknowledge a different viewpoint.

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

212 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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Also, the whole, this is our best formation talk is utterly pointless. It's like the opposition have no effect on who plays, or even whether we have the ball or not.

curlie467

7,650 posts

201 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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I just want us to look like we know roughly what we are doing.

RedTrident

8,290 posts

235 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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curlie467 said:
I just want us to look like we know roughly what we are doing.
Its what I said at the beginning of the season. To see a style of play emerge. It seems that's what Klopp's target is also for this season.


DuncanM

6,171 posts

279 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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phil_cardiff said:
TTmonkey said:
This is not a personal pop RT, so don't take it so....

However, I think these Liverpool threads are crazy. The amount of armchair managers on here, its the only thread which has this. Constant comments about who is good, who is not, what positions your players should be played in, who should be sold, who should be bought, who should be loaned, how the backroom should be managed, what shape team should be played.... who should be sacked....

this constant, often critical analysis - its frankly reaching ridiculous levels.

You have a new manager, its his job. No, really, it is.

This is the only PH football thread that follows this pattern.

I think it would be healthy to give it a break. Both for fans and the club.

Sit back and enjoy. And if you cant enjoy it, let it wash over you....
Amen.

The occasional tactical debate is good but it happens too much here and nobody will concede a point or acknowledge a different viewpoint.
No Amen from me.

This is by far the most interesting Football thread on PH due to the ongoing chat and 'debates'.

No one is forcing anyone to read/post here smile



Flip Martian

19,626 posts

190 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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As soon as any "this is my formation" stuff gets posted, I skim past. It's meaningless. Debate is great! Posting your ideas on formations or first 11s is not debate.

phil_cardiff

7,067 posts

208 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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Good debate requires an acceptance of other viewpoints rather than stubbornly insisting that you're always right.

NRS

22,135 posts

201 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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revrange said:
Agreed his name will have pull, that was BR major problem, he was a no one in Europe. I am not sure Sterling would have left if he'd had the chance to work with Kloop, Sanchez still have preferred london? We will never know, but Kloop has pull in that department.

Next question where do people see us getting to this year with him?
Sterling may be correct, but to be honest with the deal he got offered from City he would have gone anyway. Sanchez would also probably be in London. Look at it this way, Wenger has done generally well throughout his career, the only issue being Europe and inconsistency in the league. Klopp certainly looks promising, but when it comes down to it is only proven in one club so far, and that is in a country with much less opposition. I'm obviously excited and think he will be an improvement, but if he was a player we'd be a little more careful about expecting too much I think.

Pommygranite

14,244 posts

216 months

Tuesday 13th October 2015
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NRS said:
revrange said:
Agreed his name will have pull, that was BR major problem, he was a no one in Europe. I am not sure Sterling would have left if he'd had the chance to work with Kloop, Sanchez still have preferred london? We will never know, but Kloop has pull in that department.

Next question where do people see us getting to this year with him?
Sterling may be correct, but to be honest with the deal he got offered from City he would have gone anyway. Sanchez would also probably be in London. Look at it this way, Wenger has done generally well throughout his career, the only issue being Europe and inconsistency in the league. Klopp certainly looks promising, but when it comes down to it is only proven in one club so far, and that is in a country with much less opposition. I'm obviously excited and think he will be an improvement, but if he was a player we'd be a little more careful about expecting too much I think.
I definitely agree with this - it's going to take time I fear we expect too much too soon.


BlackST

9,079 posts

165 months

Tuesday 13th October 2015
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Seen this on Twitter hehe

Flip Martian

19,626 posts

190 months

Tuesday 13th October 2015
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Pommygranite said:
I definitely agree with this - it's going to take time I fear we expect too much too soon.
I think we're all naturally excited at finally getting (someone who is widely seen as) a top manager to the club and all the possibilities that brings - attracting top players, having an exciting team to watch, getting good results, challenging for honours. We haven't had that recently (the "Suarez season" notwithstanding). I'm looking forward to seeing how he can galvanise a decent enough group of players back into how some of them were playing when in our team 2 years ago.

RedTrident

8,290 posts

235 months

Tuesday 13th October 2015
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I am certain that given 300 million and even without inheriting a player like Suarez, Klopp will show us all how much of a better Liverpool manager he is than that clown who has finally been kicked out of the club.

Who knows, he might even find a use for Lovren.

RedTrident

8,290 posts

235 months

Tuesday 13th October 2015
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Flip Martian said:
As soon as any "this is my formation" stuff gets posted, I skim past. It's meaningless. Debate is great! Posting your ideas on formations or first 11s is not debate.
In a team where the previous manager didn't seem to have any idea of formation it is an issue for debate.

For instance, is Cann a centre back?

NRS

22,135 posts

201 months

Tuesday 13th October 2015
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RedTrident said:
I am certain that given 300 million and even without inheriting a player like Suarez, Klopp will show us all how much of a better Liverpool manager he is than that clown who has finally been kicked out of the club.

Who knows, he might even find a use for Lovren.
How do you measure that though? It will be very difficult if not nearly impossible to improve on 2nd place in 3 seasons. If the best he does is 3rd or 4th place and a cup or two will that be more success? Not to mention despite all the questions about Rodgers he has the second highest win rate of recent managers. I am happy we have changed managers as I couldn't see Rodgers improving us as nothing he was trying worked, but in terms of stats (apart from cups) Rodgers will not be super easy to beat.

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

212 months

Tuesday 13th October 2015
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RedTrident said:
For instance, is Cann a centre back?
It depends.

He played well there last season. Yes he made some mistakes, but so would any CB going into a Liverpool side at such a young age. Plus, Skrtel and Lovren made just as many mistakes and they've been CBs a lot longer than he has.

But then some will say he's not a CB just because that's not what he is in FIFA, but each to their own.

RT, is Suarez a striker?
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