Which option to fix this kerb damage?

Which option to fix this kerb damage?

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KTF

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9,823 posts

151 months

Tuesday 12th May 2015
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I have very minor damage to one of my diamond cut alloys that has only just been replaced under warranty frown



I know its minor but its bothering me so I have contacted a couple of places for quotes.

The first have said that they can polish round the rim to remove it for £84 (the finish may be slightly 'flatter' where the work has been carried out as a result) or a full refurb for £176.40 which is more than the cost of a new wheel at £126.

The second has replied to say that they can do a full refurb for £112.80 which seems a bit cheap given that diamond cut is meant to be a more complicated process to sort out and its a lot cheaper than the first place?

I was going to go with the polish option remove the damage as it is only on the edge, a new wheel is over the top and the refurb is very close to the cost of a new wheel.

Just wondering what you would do - leaving it isnt an option smile - go for the polish to make it less obvious or the refurb to (in theory) return it to OEM?

Squiggs

1,520 posts

156 months

Tuesday 12th May 2015
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If it were mine I'd get some wet and dry paper.
Starting with 400, then 800, 1500 and finally 2000 (maybe 3000 to finish if required) I'd carefully try rubbing it down myself, wrapping the paper over a small solid flat block of wood, keeping the paper very wet, using only back and forth strokes that follow the circumference of the wheel and working from the edge towards the face
Polish with G3 if required.
Nothing much to loose if you do this and then decide to get it done professionally - you'll have made their job easier (but probably not cheaper).

AndrewEH1

4,917 posts

154 months

Tuesday 12th May 2015
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Squiggs said:
If it were mine I'd get some wet and dry paper.
Starting with 400, then 800, 1500 and finally 2000 (maybe 3000 to finish if required) I'd carefully try rubbing it down myself, wrapping the paper over a small solid flat block of wood, keeping the paper very wet, using only back and forth strokes that follow the circumference of the wheel and working from the edge towards the face
Polish with G3 if required.
Nothing much to loose if you do this and then decide to get it done professionally - you'll have made their job easier (but probably not cheaper).
This, costs no more than about £20 and would take about 20 minutes.

7even

462 posts

194 months

Tuesday 12th May 2015
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AndrewEH1 said:
Squiggs said:
If it were mine I'd get some wet and dry paper.
Starting with 400, then 800, 1500 and finally 2000 (maybe 3000 to finish if required) I'd carefully try rubbing it down myself, wrapping the paper over a small solid flat block of wood, keeping the paper very wet, using only back and forth strokes that follow the circumference of the wheel and working from the edge towards the face
Polish with G3 if required.
Nothing much to loose if you do this and then decide to get it done professionally - you'll have made their job easier (but probably not cheaper).
This, costs no more than about £20 and would take about 20 minutes.
Its also taking off the clearcoat layer, so in 1-2 months/weeks time its going to oxidise and leave a dull patch where you've worked.

KTF

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151 months

Tuesday 12th May 2015
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I have no experience of doing this myself and it would almost certainly look rubbish which is why I would prefer to pay someone who (hopefully) knows that they are doing.

I will take it to the place who suggested the polish to let them have a look in person and see what they think. Its a very small area and most of it is on the edge rather than the face so the repair shouldn't be too obvious.

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

110 months

Tuesday 12th May 2015
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If you dont let it bother you it will go away, perhaps a hypnotist can fix it for you, I have a piece of bone bigger than that missing from the end of my nose and it has never bothered me since I seeked help, I was told that the little things in life that bother me are all to do with my mind

KTF

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151 months

Tuesday 12th May 2015
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It bothers me as they are 3 days old and I see it every time I walk out to the car for at least the next 2 years.

The cost of the polish is less than the cost of a series of sessions with a head doctor anyway smile

swisstoni

17,058 posts

280 months

Tuesday 12th May 2015
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Wheel refurbers must love the trend of diamond cut wheels.

Squiggs

1,520 posts

156 months

Tuesday 12th May 2015
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7even said:
AndrewEH1 said:
Squiggs said:
If it were mine I'd get some wet and dry paper.
Starting with 400, then 800, 1500 and finally 2000 (maybe 3000 to finish if required) I'd carefully try rubbing it down myself, wrapping the paper over a small solid flat block of wood, keeping the paper very wet, using only back and forth strokes that follow the circumference of the wheel and working from the edge towards the face
Polish with G3 if required.
Nothing much to loose if you do this and then decide to get it done professionally - you'll have made their job easier (but probably not cheaper).
This, costs no more than about £20 and would take about 20 minutes.
Its also taking off the clearcoat layer, so in 1-2 months/weeks time its going to oxidise and leave a dull patch where you've worked.
I'm not saying you're wrong - but you'd be surprised at what can be achieved (and how long it will last) if you work small and carefully through the grades and then a polish (preferably machine)

Jonsv8

7,239 posts

125 months

Wednesday 13th May 2015
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If a new rim is so cheap then buy a new wheel and stick the old one on eBay. A refurb alloy can look like new but isn't, and diamond cut refurb isn't cheap.


Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

110 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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KTF said:
It bothers me as they are 3 days old and I see it every time I walk out to the car for at least the next 2 years.

The cost of the polish is less than the cost of a series of sessions with a head doctor anyway smile
If you park the car with the good side facing you, you wont see it

KTF

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Thursday 14th May 2015
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Yes, but when they go back for replacing under warranty (again) when the lacquer fails after a couple of years, that sort of damage is used as an excuse not to replace them.

Anyway, just to follow up, I went for the rim polish option and here is the end result. Obviously if you know where to look then you can see it but from a few feet away its very hard to spot and a lot less obvious than it was before:







Edited by KTF on Thursday 14th May 15:19

Penelope Stopit

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110 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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KTF said:
Yes, but when they go back for replacing under warranty (again) when the lacquer failing a couple of years, that sort of damage is used as an excuse not to replace them.

Anyway, just to follow up, I went for the rim polish option and here is the end result. Obviously if you know where to look then you can see it but from a few feet away its very hard to spot and a lot less obvious than it was before:





That is a very good job, you must be pleased with it

KTF

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Thursday 14th May 2015
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Penelope Stopit said:
That is a very good job, you must be pleased with it
Yes. I admit that it was a bit of a punt but, as it was so close to the edge, it was worth a go rather than paying for a refurb.

It must be at least 18 years since I last curbed an alloy so hopefully there will be a similar gap again and at least I have a good contact who can sort it should it happen again.

They do tyres as well at very similar prices to the online places so will probably use them again when they need replacing as they take a bit more time over the whole thing which is fine with me.

HustleRussell

24,744 posts

161 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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swisstoni said:
Wheel refurbers must love the trend of diamond cut wheels.
I don't, they all look a bit 80s to me. I'm not old enough to remember the 80s but when I think of machine finish alloys I immediately think of Mk2 Scirocco snowflakes, revolutions and those basketweave wheels sporty Fiestas used to have. Not a trend I have missed to be honest. That and white paint, another trend which seems to occur on a 25 year cycle.

Squiggs

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156 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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Does a rim polish also include re-lacquering the now polished area?
Or as suggested earlier is that area now unprotected and expected to start oxidising in the future?

KTF

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Thursday 14th May 2015
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Squiggs said:
Does a rim polish also include re-lacquering the now polished area?
Or as suggested earlier is that area now unprotected and expected to start oxidising in the future?
Yes, re-lacquered so sealed from the elements. They don't just sand a bit off them leave it as that would bubble in months if not less.

KTF

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Thursday 14th May 2015
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swisstoni said:
Wheel refurbers must love the trend of diamond cut wheels.
The guy I was speaking to today said that unless it's right on the edge then the only real option is a refurb. Non-diamond ones can be smart repaired.

They also said that a lot of people just don't seem to care these days and grind them away. I imagine they get a lot of business from dealers prepping then for resale as you wouldn't buy a car with diamond cut one that's scratched up and oxidised.

Another option is to powder coat them and two tone paint them to get the same effect but that defeats the point.