Creating courses Garmin Edge 1000
Discussion
Hi guys,
Have just ordered an Edge 1000 (with the HRM and cadence sensor) and I'm wondering what sites you use for creating courses.
Map my ride seems good but I don't think the editing is as good. For example if you decide to make the route a bit longer you can't just drag the course to another road unless you've made several "via points", whereas on garmin connect you can literally just drag the course/map line from any point and it'll create a new via point.
However, I'm not sure if Garmin connect allows you to download the course as a GPX file(?), because if you want to create several courses which are roughly similar but with a few differences you need to start from scratch. That is, unless I can download it as a GPX file, save it, then copy it under another name, upload and edit that...
I have read that the Edge can speak directions to you, this is something I'd ideally like the mapping website to be able to offer (just using OSM maps would work, I'd have thought?)
Many thanks in advance
Have just ordered an Edge 1000 (with the HRM and cadence sensor) and I'm wondering what sites you use for creating courses.
Map my ride seems good but I don't think the editing is as good. For example if you decide to make the route a bit longer you can't just drag the course to another road unless you've made several "via points", whereas on garmin connect you can literally just drag the course/map line from any point and it'll create a new via point.
However, I'm not sure if Garmin connect allows you to download the course as a GPX file(?), because if you want to create several courses which are roughly similar but with a few differences you need to start from scratch. That is, unless I can download it as a GPX file, save it, then copy it under another name, upload and edit that...
I have read that the Edge can speak directions to you, this is something I'd ideally like the mapping website to be able to offer (just using OSM maps would work, I'd have thought?)
Many thanks in advance
I've created routes with Ride With GPS and exported them for use on a Mio Cyclo using GPX format, it will also do TCX for Garmin 500/800/1000 too. You can also import other peoples rides from Strava or Google Map routes into it, modify them and then export them for use on your device. I also find it useful to check out sportive routes to see where the climbs are.
I got an Edge 1000 a few months ago and have spent hours on http://www.plotaroute.com creating courses.
Download it as a .gpx (no need to sign up, all free) plug the Garmin in via USB, transfer the routes to the 'new files' folder in Garmin and they appear in courses on the device and are ready to go.
Download it as a .gpx (no need to sign up, all free) plug the Garmin in via USB, transfer the routes to the 'new files' folder in Garmin and they appear in courses on the device and are ready to go.
I use Garmin Connect - if you wish to use the segment function on your Edge 1000 then you'll need to use GC unless other mapping tools have expanded to include this capability since i last looked.
Other good mapping tools include bikeroutetoaster and ridewithgps
I also like GC as the undo button works which was a real pain for some of the other mapping tools (cant remember which) when I 1st tried a few out.
It also seems to be general wisdom that whichever mapping tool you use to make sure that your start and finish points are not identical (if its a round trip) - I always leave about 100m between them.
I've road tested most bike GPS and the 1000 is my default unit from a draw full - however, unless i've missed a trick it doesn't do voice commands. It issues visual and audible turn alerts in advance of junctions (search 'Garmin Edge 1000' on youtube for demos) but audible alerts are limited to beeps (happy to be corrected if there has been a recent upgrade !). The only bike GPS with spoken turn instructions that I am aware of is the Bryton Rider 60 and even then that is only via a bluetooth connected headset.
The 1000 is however the business IMHO.
Did you get a good deal as after some good pricing in the last few weeks they seem to be in shortish supply with some vendors and are priced accordingly.
Other good mapping tools include bikeroutetoaster and ridewithgps
I also like GC as the undo button works which was a real pain for some of the other mapping tools (cant remember which) when I 1st tried a few out.
It also seems to be general wisdom that whichever mapping tool you use to make sure that your start and finish points are not identical (if its a round trip) - I always leave about 100m between them.
I've road tested most bike GPS and the 1000 is my default unit from a draw full - however, unless i've missed a trick it doesn't do voice commands. It issues visual and audible turn alerts in advance of junctions (search 'Garmin Edge 1000' on youtube for demos) but audible alerts are limited to beeps (happy to be corrected if there has been a recent upgrade !). The only bike GPS with spoken turn instructions that I am aware of is the Bryton Rider 60 and even then that is only via a bluetooth connected headset.
The 1000 is however the business IMHO.
Did you get a good deal as after some good pricing in the last few weeks they seem to be in shortish supply with some vendors and are priced accordingly.
teambeer said:
I got an Edge 1000 a few months ago and have spent hours on http://www.plotaroute.com creating courses.
Download it as a .gpx (no need to sign up, all free) plug the Garmin in via USB, transfer the routes to the 'new files' folder in Garmin and they appear in courses on the device and are ready to go.
This looks good thanks! Is a GPX file preferable to a TCX?Download it as a .gpx (no need to sign up, all free) plug the Garmin in via USB, transfer the routes to the 'new files' folder in Garmin and they appear in courses on the device and are ready to go.
Thanks again
Pot Odds said:
I use Garmin Connect - if you wish to use the segment function on your Edge 1000 then you'll need to use GC unless other mapping tools have expanded to include this capability since i last looked.
Other good mapping tools include bikeroutetoaster and ridewithgps
I also like GC as the undo button works which was a real pain for some of the other mapping tools (cant remember which) when I 1st tried a few out.
It also seems to be general wisdom that whichever mapping tool you use to make sure that your start and finish points are not identical (if its a round trip) - I always leave about 100m between them.
I've road tested most bike GPS and the 1000 is my default unit from a draw full - however, unless i've missed a trick it doesn't do voice commands. It issues visual and audible turn alerts in advance of junctions (search 'Garmin Edge 1000' on youtube for demos) but audible alerts are limited to beeps (happy to be corrected if there has been a recent upgrade !). The only bike GPS with spoken turn instructions that I am aware of is the Bryton Rider 60 and even then that is only via a bluetooth connected headset.
The 1000 is however the business IMHO.
Did you get a good deal as after some good pricing in the last few weeks they seem to be in shortish supply with some vendors and are priced accordingly.
£359 with next day delivery, and that's the "performance bundle". Bargain!Other good mapping tools include bikeroutetoaster and ridewithgps
I also like GC as the undo button works which was a real pain for some of the other mapping tools (cant remember which) when I 1st tried a few out.
It also seems to be general wisdom that whichever mapping tool you use to make sure that your start and finish points are not identical (if its a round trip) - I always leave about 100m between them.
I've road tested most bike GPS and the 1000 is my default unit from a draw full - however, unless i've missed a trick it doesn't do voice commands. It issues visual and audible turn alerts in advance of junctions (search 'Garmin Edge 1000' on youtube for demos) but audible alerts are limited to beeps (happy to be corrected if there has been a recent upgrade !). The only bike GPS with spoken turn instructions that I am aware of is the Bryton Rider 60 and even then that is only via a bluetooth connected headset.
The 1000 is however the business IMHO.
Did you get a good deal as after some good pricing in the last few weeks they seem to be in shortish supply with some vendors and are priced accordingly.
TCX enables you to embed waypoints/coursepoints with turn instructions this is useful for cycle GPS without maps which use breadcrumb trails such as the Edge 200, 500 and 510. Its a way of enabling basic navigation.
GPX is fine for the edge 1000 as it has full mapping and is able to recognise turns etc for itself - the additional info embedded in the TCX is not necessary.
GPX is fine for the edge 1000 as it has full mapping and is able to recognise turns etc for itself - the additional info embedded in the TCX is not necessary.
Got this through and have spent a while charging it and setting up all my data fields and so on. Looks like an awesome piece of kit, it really does!
Just updating the software to V3.0 and updating the maps.... Saying it'll take a couple of hours!
Does anyone use am external micro SD card with it? Trying to work out why you'd need to as even large routes are well under 1MB and there's quite a bit of free space on the device.
I've also noticed that the speed and cadence sensors both have small padlock icons. There is the ability to rotate a small "disc" between the locked padlock, or the open padlock. This is not mentioned in the manual.... To begin using them do they need to be moved to the unlocked icon?
Cheers
Just updating the software to V3.0 and updating the maps.... Saying it'll take a couple of hours!
Does anyone use am external micro SD card with it? Trying to work out why you'd need to as even large routes are well under 1MB and there's quite a bit of free space on the device.
I've also noticed that the speed and cadence sensors both have small padlock icons. There is the ability to rotate a small "disc" between the locked padlock, or the open padlock. This is not mentioned in the manual.... To begin using them do they need to be moved to the unlocked icon?
Cheers
Edited by E65Ross on Tuesday 19th May 16:58
neilbauer said:
I did plug an 8 gig card in mine, not sure if it needs it but for 7 quid it didn't matter.
This was my thinking. Do you have any idea how much data, say, a 50 mile ride uses?! I guess having more storage will mean that you can keep history on the device for longer.Just seen a 16GB micro SD card on Amazon for a little over £5....might as well!
SixPotBelly said:
You don't need a memory card to store rides, but you might want one to store maps.
....Just reminded me that I installed micro 8gb SD card on mine so I could add OS maps but to be honest I have no idea how to load them...anybody give me a nudge in the right direction or page with idiots guide on how to upload them? Got my bike back after my 105 lever for the rear mech decided to pack up....put the garmin mount on the bike and put my sensors on and just took it round the block to try it all out.
Really was hassle-free. Picked up the cadence and wheel speed sensor immediately (but I didn't need to enter wheel size....so will this be accurate!? Heart rate monitor worked fine as well. I've found the course directions good on the map, giving you the option to display things like distance to next turn etc. I've found when coming out of an estate (eg with lots of turns and roads) it can be a bit slow to respond in terms of map orientation but once on a road, as it were, it's not a problem at all.
Do you have the map zoom on auto, or do you manually adjust it?
What an absolutely awesome piece of kit it is!
Really was hassle-free. Picked up the cadence and wheel speed sensor immediately (but I didn't need to enter wheel size....so will this be accurate!? Heart rate monitor worked fine as well. I've found the course directions good on the map, giving you the option to display things like distance to next turn etc. I've found when coming out of an estate (eg with lots of turns and roads) it can be a bit slow to respond in terms of map orientation but once on a road, as it were, it's not a problem at all.
Do you have the map zoom on auto, or do you manually adjust it?
What an absolutely awesome piece of kit it is!
keith2.2 said:
Does the 1000 have the ability to route itself, or do routes HAVE to be pre-loaded?
What I really want is something that will "get me home" or that I can plot in a route via waypoints - like with a sat nav.
I've got a 510 at the moment but it's used purely as a posh speedo!
It can be used as a sat nav. It even has pois loaded such as cafes, cash points and so on. Yes, you can even plot a route straight from the device but I prefer doing it online first. What I really want is something that will "get me home" or that I can plot in a route via waypoints - like with a sat nav.
I've got a 510 at the moment but it's used purely as a posh speedo!
keith2.2 said:
Does the 1000 have the ability to route itself, or do routes HAVE to be pre-loaded?
What I really want is something that will "get me home" or that I can plot in a route via waypoints - like with a sat nav.
I've got a 510 at the moment but it's used purely as a posh speedo!
I think the garmin 200 has a function to get you back to where you've come from.What I really want is something that will "get me home" or that I can plot in a route via waypoints - like with a sat nav.
I've got a 510 at the moment but it's used purely as a posh speedo!
Not that I've used it.
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