Anyone ordered a 340i yet?

[Hunky Dory]

Just a thought: Why not try and get a 335i on a "Pre LCI deal" and then fit MPPK?

Similar power, better noise and should still be cheaper than 340i?

I got 18.5% discount on my F31 335i 2 years ago. The same or better must be possible now and that frees up some cash for the PPK.

Man maths tells me you almost can't afford not to do it!

[James_G]

smashy said:

I guess their will be no BMW GB contribution on the new ones so a new 335i may be thousands (around 7?) cheaper?

Current contribution from BMW for pre-LCI on 335i is £3250 plus a further £1500 if taken on finance. While in the dealer at the weekend speccing up an LCI 330D I was told the contributions were continuing.

From the build using the dealer system most options seem to be priced the same although the default 19" wheel option with the M Sport Plus pack has changed. With the money I saved from not having to spec xenons (as now LEDs) I selected ACC. Not ordered yet though - still waiting on finance figures and a test drive in a 4 GC.

[smashy]

Fair dos James .I related that with my new 330d luxury that on monthlys was £15 a month cheaper than a new 225d because of no contribution on the 2.

[M3greg]

JNW1 said:

Osinjak said:

Tough market for a 340i with the S4 and the incoming C450 AMG and 362 bhp.

Indeed so! I accept there's more to it than horsepower and straight line performance but for the new 340i to arrive with less power and torque than the outgoing S4 is slightly surprising....

The Audi website has the S4 at 300hp, less than the current 335i.

[moffat]

M3greg said:

The Audi website has the S4 at 300hp, less than the current 335i.

The S3 has 300hp, the S4 is around 330hp

Still I wouldn't touch the S4 now with a brand new A4 due very soon and the S4 is very old tech and dated now.

Audi are st at doing deals too.

[M3greg]

moffat said:

M3greg said:

The Audi website has the S4 at 300hp, less than the current 335i.

The S3 has 300hp, the S4 is around 330hp

Still I wouldn't touch the S4 now with a brand new A4 due very soon and the S4 is very old tech and dated now.

Audi are st at doing deals too.

I stand corrected. Agree with you though, and unless they do a M340i, not a fair comparison in anything other than price.

[JNW1]

M3greg said:

moffat said:

M3greg said:

The Audi website has the S4 at 300hp, less than the current 335i.

The S3 has 300hp, the S4 is around 330hp

Still I wouldn't touch the S4 now with a brand new A4 due very soon and the S4 is very old tech and dated now.

Audi are st at doing deals too.

I stand corrected. Agree with you though, and unless they do a M340i, not a fair comparison in anything other than price.

I drove a B8 S4 Avant when I still had my E92 335i (with N55 engine) and the Audi definitely felt quicker despite being a bigger, heavier, car. The official power rating is circa 330bhp but from what I understand the numbers are conservative and most standard cars make more than that (although to be fair that tends to apply to BMW's as well). I agree the current A4 is getting long in the tooth and that, combined with the fact Audi weren't offering anything much in the way of deals back in August last year, tempted me towards an F31. However, an S4 Black Edition can now be had new for less than £35k including things like sports diff, navigation and supersport seats and, while it may not have the refinement of an F31, it's probably still more fun to drive on a challenging road; to my eye it also has a nicer interior (I haven't really warmed to the enlarged 1-series feel in the F3x) but I accept that's a personal thing. I actually think the F31 is a very nice car but ultimate driving machine it isn't and if I was choosing again now I doubt I'd arrive at the same decision.....

[James_G]

Was in my local Audi dealer today and there are no build slots left for the S4 it seems. Some dealers have pre-ordered cars so there's a Sepang Blue S4 Avant coming in to a dealer near me. Offer was £5k off list, which brought it down to £43k.

I didn't want an Avant though and it had been ordered with those RS5 wheels that seem very popular but do nothing for the looks IMHO.

[Fox-]

M3greg said:

I stand corrected. Agree with you though, and unless they do a M340i, not a fair comparison in anything other than price.

It is a fair comparison, don't be fooled by the name of the S4, it's basically just a 3.0TFSI S-Line. Audi played a blinder calling it the S4 as people still think it's a level above a 335i M Sport when it really isn't.

[ruggedscotty]

Looking good these new 340 's

[JNW1]

James_G said:

Was in my local Audi dealer today and there are no build slots left for the S4 it seems.

Really? Thought Audi had just improved the spec for what will presumably be the run-out versions of the current model so surprised if you can't actually buy one!

[Welshbeef]

Why are people concerned about reliability of a brand new warranties vehicle?

[eliot]

Welshbeef said:

Why are people concerned about reliability of a brand new warranties vehicle?

Maybe because they want to drive it rather than sit in the dealer waiting room with all the other glum owners watching cbeebies and drinking crap coffee

[ratty6464]

Just get the 340i if that's what you want and can afford it. It will have a 3 year warranty and then after 3 years you can just get the extended warranty for piece of mind.

These days the first service isn't even until 20k miles which seems crazy to me, but in a way if you have a warranty, who cares?

Yes you could get a great run out deal on a 335, but they will also be worth less relative to the second hand 340s in a few years time so swings and roundabouts. If you can easily afford it just go for it and don't worry.

[Welshbeef]

eliot said:

Welshbeef said:

Why are people concerned about reliability of a brand new warranties vehicle?

Maybe because they want to drive it rather than sit in the dealer waiting room with all the other glum owners watching cbeebies and drinking crap coffee

You are suggesting mass failure rate which simply doesn't happen or if it did would destroy the brand that they spend a fortune to create.

Actually if you have that thought about new cars any manufacturer who brings out new kit just never buy it instead buy some older model job done let others buy them new.

[James_G]

JNW1 said:

Really? Thought Audi had just improved the spec for what will presumably be the run-out versions of the current model so surprised if you can't actually buy one!

So it seems, but I haven't pursued any other dealers. There's a new A4 pretty soon though so it doesn't seen unusual.

[smashy]

Welshbeef said:

You are suggesting mass failure rate which simply doesn't happen or if it did would destroy the brand that they spend a fortune to create.

Actually if you have that thought about new cars any manufacturer who brings out new kit just never buy it instead buy some older model job done let others buy them new.

The N47 Engine should have destroyed the Brand ....I think it must be Bullitt Proof brand wise

[eliot]

Welshbeef said:

eliot said:

Welshbeef said:

Why are people concerned about reliability of a brand new warranties vehicle?

Maybe because they want to drive it rather than sit in the dealer waiting room with all the other glum owners watching cbeebies and drinking crap coffee

You are suggesting mass failure rate which simply doesn't happen or if it did would destroy the brand that they spend a fortune to create.

Actually if you have that thought about new cars any manufacturer who brings out new kit just never buy it instead buy some older model job done let others buy them new.

I'm suggesting getting to and from a dealer to deal with issues (even if under warranty) is a pain the neck.

[aeropilot]

smashy said:

Welshbeef said:

You are suggesting mass failure rate which simply doesn't happen or if it did would destroy the brand that they spend a fortune to create.

Actually if you have that thought about new cars any manufacturer who brings out new kit just never buy it instead buy some older model job done let others buy them new.

The N47 Engine should have destroyed the Brand ....I think it must be Bullitt Proof brand wise

As long as any brand retains the 'must have' status that many aspirational types see the BMW brand (insert similar fashion accessory brand name) the N47 saga, OBD port theft security issues and other such glaring failures will largely be ignored by the masses.
Whereas the old Lancia Beta rust issue of 40 years ago killed off a perceived niche 'less desirable' brand PDQ.