Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 7
Discussion
r11co said:
NoNeed said:
So a TV channel is more important than those food banks we heard about a page or so ago?
Absolutely. Food banks are a symbol of austerity and Westminster oppression, and therefor must be preserved at all costs to maintain the SNP narrative. Talking about the BBC is a convenient distraction from the politcal reality of the SNP. Yet another cruel irony.Clicking on the link again gives the details of her speech. I also like the highest rated comment.
"Dear Nicola,
You lost the referendum. Please stop acting like Scotland is an independent country. It isn't."
Exactly what I was thinking and how would they fund it? The BBC is already about to close BBC3 down on Freeview to save money.
nightcruiser said:
This 100%
Clicking on the link again gives the details of her speech. I also like the highest rated comment.
"Dear Nicola,
You lost the referendum. Please stop acting like Scotland is an independent country. It isn't."
Exactly what I was thinking and how would they fund it? The BBC is already about to close BBC3 down on Freeview to save money.
Well those in Scotland would pay the additional so a higher licence fee for them - no way would rUK pay for it why should they?Clicking on the link again gives the details of her speech. I also like the highest rated comment.
"Dear Nicola,
You lost the referendum. Please stop acting like Scotland is an independent country. It isn't."
Exactly what I was thinking and how would they fund it? The BBC is already about to close BBC3 down on Freeview to save money.
Welshbeef said:
nightcruiser said:
This 100%
Clicking on the link again gives the details of her speech. I also like the highest rated comment.
"Dear Nicola,
You lost the referendum. Please stop acting like Scotland is an independent country. It isn't."
Exactly what I was thinking and how would they fund it? The BBC is already about to close BBC3 down on Freeview to save money.
Well those in Scotland would pay the additional so a higher licence fee for them - no way would rUK pay for it why should they?Clicking on the link again gives the details of her speech. I also like the highest rated comment.
"Dear Nicola,
You lost the referendum. Please stop acting like Scotland is an independent country. It isn't."
Exactly what I was thinking and how would they fund it? The BBC is already about to close BBC3 down on Freeview to save money.
This is all very odd the SNP will control Holyrood, they have all of the MP's in Scotland bar 3, there is one central police force, they want to control public broadcasting (and I assume thus Radio 1 Scotland too) and yet no one thinks this is a bit well not right.
I like that we have a Tory goverment (I voted that way) I also like that there majority is not 100 or more seats they have to act accordingly but can still govern. The SNP are in power an almost want to make sure that never changes. Surely you could argue the SNP got a shot at being independant people said no. Thus there is no point to the party. Course they are now "Yellow Labor" andof course we know the red party is really blue (if you ask the Yellow labour Party). So where does this all leave democracy in scotland.
then again people did vote freely for Yellow labour and may well in the Holyrood vote. I just suspect its because Yellow Labour attack like the Scientologists any one who dares to disagree.
I will leave you with this, at the last GE did any one suggest there would be a Piper leading you to the polls say in Harlow, or Stoke, or Newcastle or Kensington...no Niddrie had one though and others were planned (untill it was shown to be a breach of electoral law...did no one at the SNP not know this...hmmm)
I like that we have a Tory goverment (I voted that way) I also like that there majority is not 100 or more seats they have to act accordingly but can still govern. The SNP are in power an almost want to make sure that never changes. Surely you could argue the SNP got a shot at being independant people said no. Thus there is no point to the party. Course they are now "Yellow Labor" andof course we know the red party is really blue (if you ask the Yellow labour Party). So where does this all leave democracy in scotland.
then again people did vote freely for Yellow labour and may well in the Holyrood vote. I just suspect its because Yellow Labour attack like the Scientologists any one who dares to disagree.
I will leave you with this, at the last GE did any one suggest there would be a Piper leading you to the polls say in Harlow, or Stoke, or Newcastle or Kensington...no Niddrie had one though and others were planned (untill it was shown to be a breach of electoral law...did no one at the SNP not know this...hmmm)
Gecko1978 said:
I will leave you with this, at the last GE did any one suggest there would be a Piper leading you to the polls say in Harlow, or Stoke, or Newcastle or Kensington...no Niddrie had one though and others were planned (untill it was shown to be a breach of electoral law...did no one at the SNP not know this...hmmm)
I just had to look this one up and while not surprised as nothing in Scottish politics can do that now, I am quite alarmed.I read this report http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/pied-pi... And had to giggle at the staement of the organisers "Let's all be bravehearts" Trollburger will still insist that mel Gibson had nothing to do with the independence movement growing in recent years, and all the historical innacuracies in the film shows that Scotland is easily lead.
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/...
they just can't put it down can they?
blame others for austerity, do nothing about foodbanks whilst doubling tax breaks for £50k sports cars.
the media should be tearing them a new ars*hole
they just can't put it down can they?
blame others for austerity, do nothing about foodbanks whilst doubling tax breaks for £50k sports cars.
the media should be tearing them a new ars*hole
///ajd said:
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/...
they just can't put it down can they?
blame others for austerity, do nothing about foodbanks whilst doubling tax breaks for £50k sports cars.
the media should be tearing them a new ars*hole
They have the media scared, they have people that want to talk to the media scared and have used their police force to identify people. The comparisons to 1930's Germany just keep on coming, it's almost as though they have found a book called the Goering stratagey for success and implemented it in full.they just can't put it down can they?
blame others for austerity, do nothing about foodbanks whilst doubling tax breaks for £50k sports cars.
the media should be tearing them a new ars*hole
Edited by NoNeed on Tuesday 1st September 00:41
The whole police Scotland thing isn't working out well is it?
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/po...
What's the betting that the annonymous cop gets identified.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/po...
What's the betting that the annonymous cop gets identified.
A post from Facebook (United Against Separation) that shows how the SNP are politicising the police force
Text read..
This is our country, this is our police force, and this helicopter is paid for with our money. So I want to be able to read what it says on the side of it in my native mother tongue- being the primary language of this country, English.
It's this sort of nonsense from the SNP's policing wing, Police Scotland, which heightens concern the police service in Scotland has been politicised.
I have today emailed this photograph to Police Scotland demanding an explanation as to why a dead language only a tiny minority of people speaks is slapped on the side of this helicopter instead of the language you and I use and understand.
And I would encourage you to do likewise. The only way we are going to stop this nationalist nonsense is to stand up and speak up.
Text read..
This is our country, this is our police force, and this helicopter is paid for with our money. So I want to be able to read what it says on the side of it in my native mother tongue- being the primary language of this country, English.
It's this sort of nonsense from the SNP's policing wing, Police Scotland, which heightens concern the police service in Scotland has been politicised.
I have today emailed this photograph to Police Scotland demanding an explanation as to why a dead language only a tiny minority of people speaks is slapped on the side of this helicopter instead of the language you and I use and understand.
And I would encourage you to do likewise. The only way we are going to stop this nationalist nonsense is to stand up and speak up.
Edited by NoNeed on Sunday 30th August 18:40
NoNeed said:
A post from Facebook (United Against Separation) that shows how the SNP are politicising the police force
Text read..
This is our country, this is our police force, and this helicopter is paid for with our money. So I want to be able to read what it says on the side of it in my native mother tongue- being the primary language of this country, English.
It's this sort of nonsense from the SNP's policing wing, Police Scotland, which heightens concern the police service in Scotland has been politicised.
I have today emailed this photograph to Police Scotland demanding an explanation as to why a dead language only a tiny minority of people speaks is slapped on the side of this helicopter instead of the language you and I use and understand.
And I would encourage you to do likewise. The only way we are going to stop this nationalist nonsense is to stand up and speak up.
The word 'police' which you crave to read is easily seen on the helicopter. Text read..
This is our country, this is our police force, and this helicopter is paid for with our money. So I want to be able to read what it says on the side of it in my native mother tongue- being the primary language of this country, English.
It's this sort of nonsense from the SNP's policing wing, Police Scotland, which heightens concern the police service in Scotland has been politicised.
I have today emailed this photograph to Police Scotland demanding an explanation as to why a dead language only a tiny minority of people speaks is slapped on the side of this helicopter instead of the language you and I use and understand.
And I would encourage you to do likewise. The only way we are going to stop this nationalist nonsense is to stand up and speak up.
Edited by NoNeed on Sunday 30th August 18:40
Like it or not, there are Gaelic speakers in some parts of Scotland.
All over the UK there's evidence of things many of us disagree with.
Edinburger said:
NoNeed said:
A post from Facebook (United Against Separation) that shows how the SNP are politicising the police force
Text read..
This is our country, this is our police force, and this helicopter is paid for with our money. So I want to be able to read what it says on the side of it in my native mother tongue- being the primary language of this country, English.
It's this sort of nonsense from the SNP's policing wing, Police Scotland, which heightens concern the police service in Scotland has been politicised.
I have today emailed this photograph to Police Scotland demanding an explanation as to why a dead language only a tiny minority of people speaks is slapped on the side of this helicopter instead of the language you and I use and understand.
And I would encourage you to do likewise. The only way we are going to stop this nationalist nonsense is to stand up and speak up.
The word 'police' which you crave to read is easily seen on the helicopter. Text read..
This is our country, this is our police force, and this helicopter is paid for with our money. So I want to be able to read what it says on the side of it in my native mother tongue- being the primary language of this country, English.
It's this sort of nonsense from the SNP's policing wing, Police Scotland, which heightens concern the police service in Scotland has been politicised.
I have today emailed this photograph to Police Scotland demanding an explanation as to why a dead language only a tiny minority of people speaks is slapped on the side of this helicopter instead of the language you and I use and understand.
And I would encourage you to do likewise. The only way we are going to stop this nationalist nonsense is to stand up and speak up.
Edited by NoNeed on Sunday 30th August 18:40
Like it or not, there are Gaelic speakers in some parts of Scotland.
All over the UK there's evidence of things many of us disagree with.
I would wager.... less than 2.
Another vanity project.
Total arse gravy waste of money.
r11co said:
Loving how far off-topic we are going 
I reckon our antagonists have deserted us because it is slowly dawning on them that the SNP's constitutional and political aims come as a single package, and while they like the idea of the former, the latter is becoming harder to stomach.
If I'm one of those "antagonists" then you should look closer at this thread to see why there so few regular pro- independence supporters. I reckon our antagonists have deserted us because it is slowly dawning on them that the SNP's constitutional and political aims come as a single package, and while they like the idea of the former, the latter is becoming harder to stomach.
Many reasons have been repeatedly stated. Most of the decent posters have either moved on in their life and concerns, or they were reported and banned by people who couldn't beat them any other way.
All that's left here is shell of a discussion which now just criticises all things Scottish.
Very sad.
Welshbeef said:
Is skiing in Scotland in Early Dec possible or is it more like mid Jan?
Not sure if it's better & quicker and cheaper to go from London to Alps over Scotland. Interested to hear.
Your question is like saying "I want a beach holiday in October so what's best - Tenerife or Torquay?"Not sure if it's better & quicker and cheaper to go from London to Alps over Scotland. Interested to hear.
There is skiing in Scotland throughout Winter but of course there's far better quality snow and skiing in the Alps.
I go to places like Glenshee and Aviemore for a day here and there. As good as they are, they're not in the same league as a ski resort in the Alps.
But if you want a cheap break, you can have a great time skiing in Scotland.
Troubleatmill said:
Edinburger said:
NoNeed said:
A post from Facebook (United Against Separation) that shows how the SNP are politicising the police force
Text read..
This is our country, this is our police force, and this helicopter is paid for with our money. So I want to be able to read what it says on the side of it in my native mother tongue- being the primary language of this country, English.
It's this sort of nonsense from the SNP's policing wing, Police Scotland, which heightens concern the police service in Scotland has been politicised.
I have today emailed this photograph to Police Scotland demanding an explanation as to why a dead language only a tiny minority of people speaks is slapped on the side of this helicopter instead of the language you and I use and understand.
And I would encourage you to do likewise. The only way we are going to stop this nationalist nonsense is to stand up and speak up.
The word 'police' which you crave to read is easily seen on the helicopter. Text read..
This is our country, this is our police force, and this helicopter is paid for with our money. So I want to be able to read what it says on the side of it in my native mother tongue- being the primary language of this country, English.
It's this sort of nonsense from the SNP's policing wing, Police Scotland, which heightens concern the police service in Scotland has been politicised.
I have today emailed this photograph to Police Scotland demanding an explanation as to why a dead language only a tiny minority of people speaks is slapped on the side of this helicopter instead of the language you and I use and understand.
And I would encourage you to do likewise. The only way we are going to stop this nationalist nonsense is to stand up and speak up.
Edited by NoNeed on Sunday 30th August 18:40
Like it or not, there are Gaelic speakers in some parts of Scotland.
All over the UK there's evidence of things many of us disagree with.
I would wager.... less than 2.
Another vanity project.
Total arse gravy waste of money.
Or signs, leaflets, etc., in various foreign languages all across the UK?
Edinburger said:
r11co said:
Loving how far off-topic we are going
I reckon our antagonists have deserted us because it is slowly dawning on them that the SNP's constitutional and political aims come as a single package, and while they like the idea of the former, the latter is becoming harder to stomach.
If I'm one of those "antagonists" then you should look closer at this thread to see why there so few regular pro- independence supporters. I reckon our antagonists have deserted us because it is slowly dawning on them that the SNP's constitutional and political aims come as a single package, and while they like the idea of the former, the latter is becoming harder to stomach.
Many reasons have been repeatedly stated. Most of the decent posters have either moved on in their life and concerns, or they were reported and banned by people who couldn't beat them any other way.
All that's left here is shell of a discussion which now just criticises all things Scottish.
Very sad.
I would love to be on the other side of the discussion - saying how brilliantly the Scottish Govt is performing, how they are doing good, how devolution is a stroke of brilliance - and is the roadmap for how countries should govern themselves.
I am passionate about where I am from, and what we can do.
But... the reality is that the Scottish Govt is overflowing with people with chips on their shoulder, have no idea how to put forward a business case, have not even considered how to become an independent country ( apart from the colour me in white paper that was ridiculed from 99 out of 100 economists, global leaders etc.
It is an embarrassment.
And it isn't as if the SNP haven't had enough time to think about how to do it right.... they have been going for the best part of 50...60... odd years.
Even you bottled it - because deep down you know... it comes down to small man syndrome and "The English"
Now... maybe in 30 years time ( if I am still here ).... I would love to hear a competent, structured, planned, financially viable roadmap about how Scotland can flourish....
Right now - we have Braveheart, the English are twits, and "this is someone else;s fault but mine."
It is not enough that the people of Scotland want independence. The global community needs to believe enough too, to invest in it.
Today... Scotland is a laughing stock. And it has nothing to do with anyone south of Gretna.
///ajd said:
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/...
they just can't put it down can they?
blame others for austerity, do nothing about foodbanks whilst doubling tax breaks for £50k sports cars.
the media should be tearing them a new ars*hole
I posted about the interest free loan scheme for electric cars a few weeks ago. they just can't put it down can they?
blame others for austerity, do nothing about foodbanks whilst doubling tax breaks for £50k sports cars.
the media should be tearing them a new ars*hole
Not quite as socialist as you think, eh?
Edinburger said:
All that's left here is shell of a discussion which now just criticises all things Scottish.
Very sad.
No that's just not true and you know it, all the good we have loved about Scotland is still there but is being spoiled by an idiotic group, it is those we criticise. If you cannot see the SNP are spoiling Scotland for their own political ends you are blind, the cost of the livery on that aircraft that serves no practical purpose at all could have saved 5 families using the foodbanks for a week yet when it is 1000 feet above easter house at 2 am will you be able to read it? what about 2 pm? I doubt it unless you have binoculars.Very sad.
Total waste, I know it, most of the posters on here know it, and I think you know it but are still too busy watching Mel Gibson movies to actually acknowledge it.
Edinburger said:
///ajd said:
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/...
they just can't put it down can they?
blame others for austerity, do nothing about foodbanks whilst doubling tax breaks for £50k sports cars.
the media should be tearing them a new ars*hole
I posted about the interest free loan scheme for electric cars a few weeks ago. they just can't put it down can they?
blame others for austerity, do nothing about foodbanks whilst doubling tax breaks for £50k sports cars.
the media should be tearing them a new ars*hole
Not quite as socialist as you think, eh?
left / right is not really the issue - its hypocritical incompetent nonsense, same as all SNP policy. embarrassing.com.
you are sctually defending that helicopter bullsh&t. it could be argued to be just charming, but we both know it is no longer just that, it is deliberately divisive nonsense, serving its purpose to reinforce nationalistic guff.
Edited by ///ajd on Sunday 30th August 23:01
Edited by ///ajd on Sunday 30th August 23:03
Troubleatmill said:
Actually - you are wrong. ( Quite often actually ).
I would love to be on the other side of the discussion - saying how brilliantly the Scottish Govt is performing, how they are doing good, how devolution is a stroke of brilliance - and is the roadmap for how countries should govern themselves.
I am passionate about where I am from, and what we can do.
But... the reality is that the Scottish Govt is overflowing with people with chips on their shoulder, have no idea how to put forward a business case, have not even considered how to become an independent country ( apart from the colour me in white paper that was ridiculed from 99 out of 100 economists, global leaders etc.
It is an embarrassment.
And it isn't as if the SNP haven't had enough time to think about how to do it right.... they have been going for the best part of 50...60... odd years.
Even you bottled it - because deep down you know... it comes down to small man syndrome and "The English"
Now... maybe in 30 years time ( if I am still here ).... I would love to hear a competent, structured, planned, financially viable roadmap about how Scotland can flourish....
Right now - we have Braveheart, the English are twits, and "this is someone else;s fault but mine."
It is not enough that the people of Scotland want independence. The global community needs to believe enough too, to invest in it.
Today... Scotland is a laughing stock. And it has nothing to do with anyone south of Gretna.
Great post.I would love to be on the other side of the discussion - saying how brilliantly the Scottish Govt is performing, how they are doing good, how devolution is a stroke of brilliance - and is the roadmap for how countries should govern themselves.
I am passionate about where I am from, and what we can do.
But... the reality is that the Scottish Govt is overflowing with people with chips on their shoulder, have no idea how to put forward a business case, have not even considered how to become an independent country ( apart from the colour me in white paper that was ridiculed from 99 out of 100 economists, global leaders etc.
It is an embarrassment.
And it isn't as if the SNP haven't had enough time to think about how to do it right.... they have been going for the best part of 50...60... odd years.
Even you bottled it - because deep down you know... it comes down to small man syndrome and "The English"
Now... maybe in 30 years time ( if I am still here ).... I would love to hear a competent, structured, planned, financially viable roadmap about how Scotland can flourish....
Right now - we have Braveheart, the English are twits, and "this is someone else;s fault but mine."
It is not enough that the people of Scotland want independence. The global community needs to believe enough too, to invest in it.
Today... Scotland is a laughing stock. And it has nothing to do with anyone south of Gretna.
Burger - please stop saying those critical of the SNP hate Scotland. It is patently not true and you just make yourself look like a fully paid up victim card carrying nationalist muppet every time you type it.
Edited by ///ajd on Sunday 30th August 23:03
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