Used F-Type values to hurt XKR values?

[volvos60s60]

Hi

I'm looking seriously at buying a used 5.0 XKR convertible, where say 30000 mile 2009/10 cars are in the range £35-£40K area from dealers. I see used convertible V8S F-Types are about £55K for 2013 15000-20000 mile cars.

If you note that in 24 months V8S F-Types have dropped from £80K to £55K, it is easy to see that by the middle of next winter a bit of hard bargaining will get you a 2013 car for around £45K. This narrows the gap with the kind of XKR I'm referring to above. I can only therefore conclude that XKR values are set to drop very significantly soon, making them feel pretty overpriced right now

Do you agree?

[a8hex]

Depends on what people want. I wanted an XKR not an F-Type, so I don't think the F-Type's price would have had that much affect on my thinking.

[Riccardino]

Not sure it is automatic. There are reasons to see a depreciation in both but do not see one influencing the other

XK are different machine vs the F-Type and for the convertible even more as the limited space for luggages in the F-Type limits its credentials as tourer. There will still be people interested in XK.
Also XK is out of production now

[Ian350]

It crosses my mind now and again to consider acquiring an XK but if second hand F-Types are depreciating quickly then I'll wait for an F-Type. So in my case that's one potential XK buyer that the F-Type has got rid of.

[bordseye]

I would have thought that F type prices would hurt the XKR market. From my perspective, Jag have once again made a sports car with the F type albeit more than a bit lardy and full gimmicks. The XJS and XK two seaters between the E type and the F type are failed attempts at a sports car so its difficult to see why people would want them rather than the F type at one extreme or the saloons at the other.

Or to put it another way. why buy an XKR rather than an XFR for the family or an Ftype 5 litre for fun?

Edited by bordseye on Friday 29th May 18:02

[a8hex]

bordseye said:

I would have thought that F type prices would hurt the XKR market. From my perspective, Jag have once again made a sports car with the F type albeit more than a bit lardy and full gimmicks. The XJS and XK two seaters between the E type and the F type are failed attempts at a sports car so its difficult to see why people would want them rather than the F type at one extreme or the saloons at the other.

Or to put it another way. why buy an XKR rather than an XFR for the family or an Ftype 5 litre for fun?

Edited by bordseye on Friday 29th May 18:02

Well the V12 E-Type wasn't exactly a "sports car" either, that and the XJS and the recent XKs (X100 and X150) are all GTs, because that was what the market wanted. After some 40 odd years there is once more a demand for a sports car, although not one which would have been in any way recognisable to the buyers of sports car such as early E-Types and the XKs before them.
There's no shortage of people who wanted what the XK and XKR were more than the F-Type, fortunately we all like different things. Personally I wouldn't chose a sports car that had things like an autobox, a traction control, ABS or any other gizmos, but I'd never criticise someone who did, that's their choice, likewise I'd want all of those on my GT thank you. Jaguar have said that the XK/XKR (X150) was designed for people who had other cars in their life whereas the F-Type was intended for people who perhaps didn't.

[akadk]

F TYPE Coupe R = £70k

XK Dynamic R = £53k

There is £17k between them already, so they will drop at the same rate, one not effecting the other

The V8S cabriolets from 2013 will stabilise very soon as Cabrio supply was cut in half during 2014 and 2015 vs. 2013, so supply and demand will smooth that out

[wilwak]

I think prices will hold up well on used XK's now they've ceased production.

I have an XKR and an F-Type.

IMO the F-Type is good fun to have a blast around in but if I'm going over 50 miles I take the XKR every time.

If I could only have one it would be the XKR. No hesitation.

I'm 49. Maybe younger drivers would feel different.

[volvos60s60]

wilwak said:

I think prices will hold up well on used XK's now they've ceased production.

I have an XKR and an F-Type.

IMO the F-Type is good fun to have a blast around in but if I'm going over 50 miles I take the XKR every time.

If I could only have one it would be the XKR. No hesitation.

I'm 49. Maybe younger drivers would feel different.

Wilwak, an interesting view, thanks. Having the two 2 vehicles your view is particularly relevant.

I would have thought that the F-Type would be the car of choice for most used buyers however, given it is newer, technically & dynamically better, and has a fresher, more sought after presence being as it is still in it's 'halo' period, but I am beginning to get the feeling that the XKR has a distinct following.

To be frank, I am really concerned that the XKR, having had production ceased, will follow the deflection trajectory of the XK8. Dealers keep telling me that owners are hanging onto them, that prices have steadied as there are no new ones coming into the supply chain, that they are very sought after & they can't get enough of the. However being an old cynic, I feel that could be a load of, er, flannel

As the gap narrows, I just think the XKR could shed a lot of value soon