The law is a joke!

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RWD cossie wil

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4,295 posts

172 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-32...

Teenager films himself driving at 142mph , then collides with someone at 80mph uninsured, unlicenced & kills an innocent MOP.

Gets 6 years inside? What a joke of a sentence should be life

K-Cee

238 posts

187 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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..., little bd should be given an injection with some deadly disease that acts fairly slowly !!!

daytona365

1,773 posts

163 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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The law is a joke in many ways, but in cases like this, however cretinous the individual might be I always thought that the level of intent decided, ie did he intend to kill anyone ?....Probably not, so he's just sentenced on the laws he did actually break with intent.

Quhet

2,409 posts

145 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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How did he hire it without a licence?

xRIEx

8,180 posts

147 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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Quhet said:
How did he hire it without a licence?
First thing I thought!

StottyEvo

6,860 posts

162 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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It doesn't seem hugely different to what I'd expect. Maybe 8 years would have been more fitting. As above, he is clearly an absolute tool but I doubt he had intent. I expect he could have just as easily died in the crash.

98elise

26,376 posts

160 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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Quhet said:
How did he hire it without a licence?
The article also says without insurance which is odd?

If so then surely the hire company is also at fault here?


Shaw Tarse

31,543 posts

202 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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Rented by someone else?

marmitemania

1,566 posts

141 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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I don't think driving at 80 through a residential was taking much care to avoid an accident. Hang the fu@ker high.

Matttracker

630 posts

146 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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So out in 3 years probably.
Sentencing given at courts is ridiculous it infuriates me.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

122 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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98elise said:
Quhet said:
How did he hire it without a licence?
The article also says without insurance which is odd?

If so then surely the hire company is also at fault here?
According to the Mail:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3101081/Pi...

"A friend hired it on behalf of Haroon as he only held a provisional licence and he had been giving lifts to a number of his friends."

richs2891

895 posts

252 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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I remember this accident as its on a road I drive on every day, and going past the A5 that was hit.
It was originally thought to be 2 young guys racing each other, but its a tragic case of an idiot driving when they should not be and way to fast for their abilities, and an unfortunate person minding their own business (going to work for the early shift if I remember correctly) and simply been in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Yes the law does seem an utter joke in this case, but probably the maximum for the scenario.

Late at night / early in the am quite a few cases of idiots on this stretch of road.


Edited by richs2891 on Thursday 28th May 21:12

SEE YA

3,522 posts

244 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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RWD cossie wil said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-32...

Teenager films himself driving at 142mph , then collides with someone at 80mph uninsured, unlicenced & kills an innocent MOP.

Gets 6 years inside? What a joke of a sentence should be life
+1

Blakewater

4,303 posts

156 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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Lots of people have done stupid things as teenagers and got away without doing harm. I daresay a few people on here have. They've all had the chance to grow up and become more sensible and most have. I don't condone what this guy did and nothing will bring back the person he killed, but should he really have the rest of his life taken away because of it?

V8forweekends

2,481 posts

123 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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Blakewater said:
Lots of people have done stupid things as teenagers and got away without doing harm. I daresay a few people on here have. They've all had the chance to grow up and become more sensible and most have. I don't condone what this guy did and nothing will bring back the person he killed, but should he really have the rest of his life taken away because of it?
Yes, he's taken the whole of that other guy's life. As for intent - there's a point at which "I don't give a fk about anyone else" should be taken as intent when driving IMHO.

Vyse

1,224 posts

123 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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If its a family member I am all for an eye for an eye.

Blakewater said:
Lots of people have done stupid things as teenagers and got away without doing harm. I daresay a few people on here have. They've all had the chance to grow up and become more sensible and most have. I don't condone what this guy did and nothing will bring back the person he killed, but should he really have the rest of his life taken away because of it?

Halb

53,012 posts

182 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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SEE YA said:
Sorry as for me yes, if it happened to someone in my family.
I'm the same. If I had lost a member of my family, then I'd want him put down.

Some Gump

12,671 posts

185 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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Blakewater said:
Lots of people have done stupid things as teenagers and got away without doing harm. I daresay a few people on here have. They've all had the chance to grow up and become more sensible and most have. I don't condone what this guy did and nothing will bring back the person he killed, but should he really have the rest of his life taken away because of it?
Nope, not buying it.

Getting into scrapes as kids? Of couse that's fine.

Driving at 80 in a residential area? Having never passed your test?

That's not innocent childish scrapes, that's a combo of st parenting and mates that are also utter s.

vournikas

11,683 posts

203 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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SEE YA said:
RWD cossie wil said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-32...

Teenager films himself driving at 142mph , then collides with someone at 80mph uninsured, unlicenced & kills an innocent MOP.

Gets 6 years inside? What a joke of a sentence should be life
+1
+2

An utterly depressing story.

paranoid airbag

2,679 posts

158 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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V8forweekends said:
Blakewater said:
Lots of people have done stupid things as teenagers and got away without doing harm. I daresay a few people on here have. They've all had the chance to grow up and become more sensible and most have. I don't condone what this guy did and nothing will bring back the person he killed, but should he really have the rest of his life taken away because of it?
Yes, he's taken the whole of that other guy's life. As for intent - there's a point at which "I don't give a fk about anyone else" should be taken as intent when driving IMHO.
+1.

I do not like condeming people at taxpayer expense if their actions can be explained, at least partly, by the product of situations that I'd hope never to face myself. I don't get off on telling people they got what they deserved. But I do think taxpayers deserve to live in a society where people who have the utter contempt for human life he clearly has are isolated until they can prove they don't anymore.

The fker is 19 years old, he can't claim he doesn't know what high speed metal does to human flesh anymore.

If I swung a machete around at random in the high street and killed someone I wouldn't and shouldn't be done for careless chopping.

Edited by paranoid airbag on Thursday 28th May 22:58