Raves /Rave Culture

Raves /Rave Culture

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Condi

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17,089 posts

170 months

Monday 8th June 2015
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Possibly a bit of an odd one, but Im too young to have experienced the heyday of 90's clubbing and rave culture. Raves obviously still happen, but does anyone here go to them? Are they any good, and how the hell would I find out about them? Its a box which needs to be ticked...

Hoofy

76,253 posts

281 months

Tuesday 9th June 2015
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Was into it back then (yes, I'm old). I do occasionally hear about them but they play modern dance music (if that's important).

Mark-C

5,010 posts

204 months

Tuesday 9th June 2015
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It rather depends what you want ,,,

If you want to crush yourself into a tent full of bug eyed sweaty tts leering into flashing lights whilst occasionally shouting “tune” then you can experience what the Daily Mail thought was rave culture at many a festival’s dance tent or big pub in Magaluf etc

If you want the excitement of driving randomly around the M25/M62 etc hoping to find the right field to hear some amazing new music from a sound system out the back of a van with a few hundred other like minded people then it’s harder these days and the internet doesn’t really help. Best bet is to ask at your local vinyl shop that still sells dance 12 inches and they’ll find you someone to talk to

jogon

2,971 posts

157 months

Tuesday 9th June 2015
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There was one at Devil's Dyke near Brighton the other week.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howabou...


Mark-C

5,010 posts

204 months

Tuesday 9th June 2015
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jogon said:
There was one at Devil's Dyke near Brighton the other week.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howabou...
I’m liking the attitude of Colin Warburton smile

technodup

7,576 posts

129 months

Tuesday 9th June 2015
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If you want actual 90s music and a 90s crowd then something like Fantazia is your best bet. Regularly in Stoke, Manchester, Bristol etc, no children and quality hardcore 1992 style. Motion in Bristol is a brilliant club, and Keele Uni isn't bad for what it is either. They're not raves in the sense of 20000 people in a field but they pretty much don't exist.

If you want modern illegal (or legal) raves then you're going to be stuck with all sorts of ste music, tennyboppers thinking they're the first to ever drop an E, fights and a generally st atmosphere. Not that I'm biased...

Basically because the music has split into so many different genres since the heyday the rave scene split too. You used to get piano, hardcore, jungle, techno all at the same event (or in the same set!) but now it's all fragmented. They cancelled a big Dreamscape last year for poor ticket sales, Rezerection, Helter Skelter, World Dance etc are long gone.

If you want to get the closest approximation to what it was like bitd go to Holland. The scene is massive over there because it didn't split (albeit it's not the same music). The crowds are massive, the production is unbelievable and they're usually easy to get to. Check Dominator, Nightmare, Defqon etc.

If you want something like this is the UK in 2015 forget it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=73&v=ppcMDaIqk...

Condi

Original Poster:

17,089 posts

170 months

Tuesday 9th June 2015
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Mark-C said:
If you want to crush yourself into a tent full of bug eyed sweaty tts leering into flashing lights whilst occasionally shouting “tune” then you can experience what the Daily Mail thought was rave culture at many a festival’s dance tent or big pub in Magaluf etc
Doesnt particularly appeal! I've done plenty of festivals, and love them to bits, but the dance music from 1994-2000 ish was what heavily influenced the music I like today. Unfortunately being 12 in 2000 I was a bit young to really experience it!

Will have a look at the suggestions, if it means going to Belgium/Holland then so be it.

technodup

7,576 posts

129 months

Tuesday 9th June 2015
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Defqon 1 is the one I want to go to, but I think I'm doing Dominator in July instead.

Glasgow bitd wasn't allowed to host rave events so all the best things happened elsewhere in Scotland, Hanger 13 in Ayr, Fubar in Stirling, Rez at Ingliston etc, so it was always a mission to get there, which was part of the buzz. 20 years on and I'm still chasing the same buzz, I won't go to anything in Glasgow, I'll traipse down to England a couple of times a year and Holland if I can get anyone else to go.

In the UK it doesn't matter if it's a wee club or a big event the production values are pish. I went to a rave in an aircraft hangar in Prague which was better and it had nothing. In Holland they build massive themed stages, they have audio or video intros for all the DJs, lightshows, mobile rigs, there's lockers, basically it's 100x better than anything here, they even deal with rain better. As you can tell I'm a bit of a Dutch fanboy smile. They have some cracking locations as well, in forests and on beaches if its outdoors and arenas like Ahoy indoors.

It's totally mainstream over there, it never went away. The atmosphere is unreal, the modern hardcore isn't really my thing but how could I not want to go here? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fC-eHILSsE

Two pieces of advice which stand for Holland as much as Glasgow, don't wear anything football related and take a st beforehand. You won't want to use the toilets.

Hoofy

76,253 posts

281 months

Tuesday 9th June 2015
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Um. Those two YT clips were nothing like the music I tended to listen to back in the day. (Or earlier this year when I was going through a phase. biggrin )

https://youtu.be/TZjICj8pkpE

technodup

7,576 posts

129 months

Wednesday 10th June 2015
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Hoofy said:
Um. Those two YT clips were nothing like the music I tended to listen to back in the day. (Or earlier this year when I was going through a phase. biggrin )

https://youtu.be/TZjICj8pkpE
I know, I mentioned Fantazia in my first reply. But their events are around 1500 people split in several rooms these days. If you want the music that's where to go, but if you want scale and atmosphere like it used to be they're not going to cut it.

tobinen

9,184 posts

144 months

Wednesday 10th June 2015
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They occasionally happen on the Ridgeway though I haven't been to one in bloody years. I wouldn't mind checking one out again before I peg it.

Hoofy

76,253 posts

281 months

Wednesday 10th June 2015
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technodup said:
know, I mentioned Fantazia in my first reply. But their events are around 1500 people split in several rooms these days. If you want the music that's where to go, but if you want scale and atmosphere like it used to be they're not going to cut it.
Nothing around here. frown Mind you, would it be a bunch of slow moving grey-haired 40/50-somethings now? biggrin

entropy

5,403 posts

202 months

Thursday 11th June 2015
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Moon Dance/similar old skool events @ Bagleys, Kings Cross, London

Salesy

850 posts

128 months

Thursday 11th June 2015
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Take a listen to Kool London on Tunein radio.

Billy bunter had his 25 yr party last month on a boat on the Thames, Old skool business with the likes of the Ratpack and Ragga twins.

More to come over the summer.

Used to love the proper outdoor raves back in the day. But as previous posters have said Moondance would satisfy you.

I don't think the atmosphere of the 88-92 house to hardcore era could ever be replicated due to not being able to host one in a field and the distinct abundance of substances that create hundreds of gurning faces. (Ahhh good times)

I still like to play on the decks and don't listen to anything newer than 1997, I am currently working on setting up an internet radio station that plays Only old skool.


vixen1700

22,669 posts

269 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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Never really got the whole 'Rave' thing first time round, never really got any of that squeaky horrible music or the whole driving round the M25 thing.

Early 1990s though and popping a pill, it all made sense, went to Bagleys and various other clubs, but it didn't take long before the only places to go were the free parties playing the sort of dark, driving London acid techno that I fell in love with. DJs like Zebedee, The Liberators, Gaffer etc. Great times until the drug of choice became Ketamine and the scene died. frown

One place though just kept on going, the 414 in Brixton. So if you want the feel and sound of a '90s free party, pop along tomorrow night, it's a Stay Up Forever night. http://club414.org/calendar/

11.00pm to 11.00am

A fiver before 12, £10 after. cool

Unfortunately I'm far too old for this sort of thing these days. frownhehe

nitrodave

1,262 posts

137 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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Any decent music fetival is a rave which and accessible to all.

Back in the early naughties we had a few party numbers, which after 9pm had voicemail messages with a location. We'd pitch up and it was always disused cinemas, warehosues, offices... even had a rave up in the old MI5 on westminster roundabout.

Always great fun, never any trouble, hundreds of good time revellers and the police were powerless to shut them down.

Good times!

vixen1700

22,669 posts

269 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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nitrodave said:
Back in the early naughties we had a few party numbers, which after 9pm had voicemail messages with a location. We'd pitch up and it was always disused cinemas, warehosues, offices... even had a rave up in the old MI5 on westminster roundabout.
Yeah, there were always good ones even up to that point. OCB (One Cell Brain) were really good organisers of great clean raves in brilliant locations.

One of my favourites was a Nat-West bank that had closed near Streatham High Street and the vault downstairs became a chill-out room. The place had only recently closed down and the phones and pictures of the staff were still there. Brilliant night. cool

Condi

Original Poster:

17,089 posts

170 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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nitrodave said:
Any decent music fetival is a rave which and accessible to all.

Back in the early naughties we had a few party numbers, which after 9pm had voicemail messages with a location. We'd pitch up and it was always disused cinemas, warehosues, offices... even had a rave up in the old MI5 on westminster roundabout.

Always great fun, never any trouble, hundreds of good time revellers and the police were powerless to shut them down.

Good times!
Thats what I want to experience... Although as has been mentioned it seems to have passed.

And I disagree that music festivals are a rave. I've been to quite a few, and while production values vary, they are all a bit 'clean' and commercial.

lovechild

912 posts

157 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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12 Dalston Lane. Nothing in the following 25 years beat it.

entropy

5,403 posts

202 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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Condi said:
Thats what I want to experience... Although as has been mentioned it seems to have passed.

And I disagree that music festivals are a rave. I've been to quite a few, and while production values vary, they are all a bit 'clean' and commercial.
???

The days when gangsters tried to take over raves? do you want to experience guns going off and stabbings whilst you're pilled up?