New Sony A7R Mark II
Discussion
Any else seen this?
http://petapixel.com/2015/06/10/sony-a7r-ii-the-wo...
Fair bit of coin, but quite exciting piece of kit.
Exactly what i've been waiting for - full frame, Image stabilization from the sensor(!)- (great for my old nonIS glass), very compact, onboard 4k video (with a high dynamic range gamma curve) - so i can use it as a B cam for work, flying it on drones, or rigging it up in usual places. - but at the same time I can also make use of it as a very good stills cameras for portraits and architecture.
A colleague of mine has the mark 1 - its a lovely camera, so compact - you almost forget its full frame, and the onboard IS is remarkable. Feels unusual to be able to use a prime lens, but get IS. One thing I will say is, although you can get a canon adapter and use canon glass, autofocus is veery slow when you go through an adapter. However, use a lens with a native Sony E mount, and autofocus is super fast.
http://petapixel.com/2015/06/10/sony-a7r-ii-the-wo...
Fair bit of coin, but quite exciting piece of kit.
Exactly what i've been waiting for - full frame, Image stabilization from the sensor(!)- (great for my old nonIS glass), very compact, onboard 4k video (with a high dynamic range gamma curve) - so i can use it as a B cam for work, flying it on drones, or rigging it up in usual places. - but at the same time I can also make use of it as a very good stills cameras for portraits and architecture.
A colleague of mine has the mark 1 - its a lovely camera, so compact - you almost forget its full frame, and the onboard IS is remarkable. Feels unusual to be able to use a prime lens, but get IS. One thing I will say is, although you can get a canon adapter and use canon glass, autofocus is veery slow when you go through an adapter. However, use a lens with a native Sony E mount, and autofocus is super fast.
Edited by Fordo on Thursday 11th June 10:21
...Mole... said:
If it's an improvement on the A7r it will be an awesome little camera. I switched from a 5d mk2 to an A7r using old Canon FD lenses last year and haven't looked back since, works so well with adapters. Incredibly lightweight too!
Ditto - I webt 5D3 ---> A7r. The only criticism is the AF, so if this is as much of an improvement as it seems it will be stunning. Looks like not available until August though?Simpo Two said:
Somewhat tankline in appearance... but what is 'back illumination'? Illuminated buttons?
Ah, it's a compact.
I think you're thinking of old Casio watches!Ah, it's a compact.
Back illumination for sensors is some kind of magic that's supposed to improve the sensor's light sensitivity- not saying it sounds like voodoo, but it's voodoo.
Back illumination is where the photo receptors are on one side and the circuitry is on the other, hard to do for ff sensors as you need to make it very thin .
Originally designed for small sensors where the circuitry takes up more as a percentage than it does on ff.
Tbh not that big a deal but well see if it helps in the samples.
Looks great but expensive, not sure I will upgrade for a while.
Originally designed for small sensors where the circuitry takes up more as a percentage than it does on ff.
Tbh not that big a deal but well see if it helps in the samples.
Looks great but expensive, not sure I will upgrade for a while.
Apparently AF with third party adaptors and glass is extremely impressive, early reports are that Canon EF lenses are focusing via a metabones adaptor as quickly as they would natively.
It also accepts Sony Alpha mount lenses via a simple pass through adaptor (unlike the current A7 models which require a mirror adaptor)
Bit of a game changer, in my opinion.
It also accepts Sony Alpha mount lenses via a simple pass through adaptor (unlike the current A7 models which require a mirror adaptor)
Bit of a game changer, in my opinion.
I'm currently using the A7II, it's excellent and AF is nowhere near as bad as assumed by many (I think the A7R is somewhat slower) even for moving subjects.
The build of the A7II (which the A7RII is going to be based on) is lovely, fantastic quality and feels rock solid.
The main downside is battery life, but ExPro batteries are very cheap and as good as OEM.
The build of the A7II (which the A7RII is going to be based on) is lovely, fantastic quality and feels rock solid.
The main downside is battery life, but ExPro batteries are very cheap and as good as OEM.
I've been very happy with my A7 Mark2 so far, but the extra resolution is very tempting. I like the internal IS but haven't used auto focus at all yet as my lenses are all Leica R or M on adaptors plus the Petzval 75mm, so manual focus only, for which the magnifier is very, very helpful - esp, at F0.95 !
I'm glad you posted this as I'd just been looking to see when the Canons were due out/for latest reviews out of interest. This is probably more attractive for me.
I'm glad you posted this as I'd just been looking to see when the Canons were due out/for latest reviews out of interest. This is probably more attractive for me.
Fordo said:
How've you found living with your A7r- battery life, ease of use etc?
Love it! The reduced size and weight make it such a pleasure to use and you can do candid stuff that you just can't manage when you're carrying a full size DSLR. Also when travelling my bag weighs half as much and little things like USB charging become indispensable. I also love the features like focus peaking with DMF. As I say only downside compared to the 5D3 was sluggish AF, but that appears to have been resolved now. ukaskew said:
Apparently AF with third party adaptors and glass is extremely impressive, early reports are that Canon EF lenses are focusing via a metabones adaptor as quickly as they would natively.
It also accepts Sony Alpha mount lenses via a simple pass through adaptor (unlike the current A7 models which require a mirror adaptor)
Bit of a game changer, in my opinion.
Hope they've improved this, I use the metabones Mk3 on my A7r and it's pretty much unusable with AF. Luckily manual focus on the Sony is a pleasure.It also accepts Sony Alpha mount lenses via a simple pass through adaptor (unlike the current A7 models which require a mirror adaptor)
Bit of a game changer, in my opinion.
StuH said:
Hope they've improved this, I use the metabones Mk3 on my A7r and it's pretty much unusable with AF. Luckily manual focus on the Sony is a pleasure.
DPReview stating that Canon EF lenses focus mighty quickly, so sounds promising. Sony even demoed the A7RII to the press with the Metabones and a Canon 24-70 2.8, so they must be very confident in its ability.ukaskew said:
I'm currently using the A7II, it's excellent and AF is nowhere near as bad as assumed by many (I think the A7R is somewhat slower) even for moving subjects.
The build of the A7II (which the A7RII is going to be based on) is lovely, fantastic quality and feels rock solid.
The main downside is battery life, but ExPro batteries are very cheap and as good as OEM.
Me too! I sold all my Canon gear (5d2 included) to move to Sony after a few months with my A7 Mk2. The fact that more native lenses are slowly coming out is nice (the 55/1.8 is lovely) but the main thing for me is that it's bought all my manual lenses to live. The battery life is a bit rubbish, but as others have said the ExPro batteries are cheap and I can also charge it on the go with my portable phone charger. The build of the A7II (which the A7RII is going to be based on) is lovely, fantastic quality and feels rock solid.
The main downside is battery life, but ExPro batteries are very cheap and as good as OEM.
The R2 looks a mighty piece of kit, the rate of change and confusion about the different R cameras is my only slight concern with them.
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