M4 Junctions 3-12: Smart Motorway
Discussion
Did they sneak this through as I don't recall seeing too much publicity?!
http://www.highways.gov.uk/roads/road-projects/m4-...
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I recall getting a couple of leaflets in the post about this. One invited me to comment on the consultation.
I'm not a huge fan of these smart motorways but to be fair they do seem to work when it comes to managing congestion and that stretch of m4 is not great in rush hour at the moment....
I'm not a huge fan of these smart motorways but to be fair they do seem to work when it comes to managing congestion and that stretch of m4 is not great in rush hour at the moment....
Seems to be a disease at the moment!
The M3 in Surrey is only 6 months into 2 years of 50mph misery while they put up a few gantries to make that "smart" - doesn't work too well given the dumbness of most of the users!
Given the time-frame for the work it would probably take no longer to just build another lane or two!
The M3 in Surrey is only 6 months into 2 years of 50mph misery while they put up a few gantries to make that "smart" - doesn't work too well given the dumbness of most of the users!
Given the time-frame for the work it would probably take no longer to just build another lane or two!
Smart motorways don't work.
Squeezing traffic into more lanes without a safety lane - yeah all fine
till you get a breakdown and the whole road is blocked solid as the recovery
truck cant get through.
Slightest minor stoppage on a hard shoulder / safety lane no problem.
No safety lane and then it's all slow down to 25mph
Waste of money, resurface and improve barriers.
Put in some additional safety areas but keep the safety lane,
Squeezing traffic into more lanes without a safety lane - yeah all fine
till you get a breakdown and the whole road is blocked solid as the recovery
truck cant get through.
Slightest minor stoppage on a hard shoulder / safety lane no problem.
No safety lane and then it's all slow down to 25mph
Waste of money, resurface and improve barriers.
Put in some additional safety areas but keep the safety lane,
Mr Tidy said:
Seems to be a disease at the moment!
The M3 in Surrey is only 6 months into 2 years of 50mph misery while they put up a few gantries to make that "smart" - doesn't work too well given the dumbness of most of the users!
Given the time-frame for the work it would probably take no longer to just build another lane or two!
How on earth does this take 2 fThe M3 in Surrey is only 6 months into 2 years of 50mph misery while they put up a few gantries to make that "smart" - doesn't work too well given the dumbness of most of the users!
Given the time-frame for the work it would probably take no longer to just build another lane or two!
king years???????I use the M3 daily and it has never been better in my experience since the average speed cameras were added and everyone is travelling at the same speed. Although I do totally get the point about when something goes wrong that there is no hope of the emergency services getting there.
One thing that I seriously think would help dramatically reduce traffic jams and reduce accidents (and I know this will make SVTRick mad), is to only allow lorries and coaches to be in lane 1. I see so many sudden braking actions caused by lorries deciding to go for overtakes and then travelling for miles next to each other as they are probably hitting their speed limiters. It is so painful to watch and really dangerous. This is even more apparent on the 2 lane section of the M3 between Winchester and Basingstoke - it is horrendous
One thing that I seriously think would help dramatically reduce traffic jams and reduce accidents (and I know this will make SVTRick mad), is to only allow lorries and coaches to be in lane 1. I see so many sudden braking actions caused by lorries deciding to go for overtakes and then travelling for miles next to each other as they are probably hitting their speed limiters. It is so painful to watch and really dangerous. This is even more apparent on the 2 lane section of the M3 between Winchester and Basingstoke - it is horrendous
PK42 said:
I use the M3 daily and it has never been better in my experience since the average speed cameras were added and everyone is travelling at the same speed. Although I do totally get the point about when something goes wrong that there is no hope of the emergency services getting there.
One thing that I seriously think would help dramatically reduce traffic jams and reduce accidents (and I know this will make SVTRick mad), is to only allow lorries and coaches to be in lane 1. I see so many sudden braking actions caused by lorries deciding to go for overtakes and then travelling for miles next to each other as they are probably hitting their speed limiters. It is so painful to watch and really dangerous. This is even more apparent on the 2 lane section of the M3 between Winchester and Basingstoke - it is horrendous
Quite the opposite I see your point but what if you get stuck behind Merhat Mercoat doing 40 in One thing that I seriously think would help dramatically reduce traffic jams and reduce accidents (and I know this will make SVTRick mad), is to only allow lorries and coaches to be in lane 1. I see so many sudden braking actions caused by lorries deciding to go for overtakes and then travelling for miles next to each other as they are probably hitting their speed limiters. It is so painful to watch and really dangerous. This is even more apparent on the 2 lane section of the M3 between Winchester and Basingstoke - it is horrendous
lane 1 peering through the steering wheel with sat nav on floodlite mode then, a massive que of trucks stuck behind.
Stagger the limiters on truck according to weight, or why not put limiters on cars set at 68 mph
that will keep speed down.
One thing I will say put a ban on white van man using the outer lane on a motorway, they are more dangerous than trucks sometimes.
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