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I don't get people saying, good cars but expensive, pricey etc. surely you pay good money for good products.
The problem with the accord wasn't its price, it's that the market demand has fallen in Europe, and the demand for Suv's is growing, hence the Cr-v getting a 1.6 engine now and the return of the HR-V.
The Accord continues in USA, best seller, Japan albeit a Hybrid!
The problem with the accord wasn't its price, it's that the market demand has fallen in Europe, and the demand for Suv's is growing, hence the Cr-v getting a 1.6 engine now and the return of the HR-V.
The Accord continues in USA, best seller, Japan albeit a Hybrid!
Thunder18 said:
I don't get people saying, good cars but expensive, pricey etc. surely you pay good money for good products.
Unfortunately people were willing to pay for BMW, Audi etc badges. But not Honda.Thunder18 said:
The problem with the accord wasn't its price,
Honestly, price had everything to do with the problem. It should've been priced against the Mondeo, Insignia etc.The fact it was made in Japan didn't help it either.
Deerfoot said:
Thunder18 said:
The problem with the accord wasn't its price,
Honestly, price had everything to do with the problem. It should've been priced against the Mondeo, Insignia etc.The fact it was made in Japan didn't help it either.
- Honda are still a couple of steps ahead in both build and reliability, esp. vs the POS Insignia.
- I've always found Japanese-built cars to be superior in build/componentry* to equivalent European-built cars.
The problem was that Honda never chased the company-car driver market (and by extension the lease market), which is where that segment's main demand really lies. Probably through choice - you don't make a lot of money there, you just get a lot of volume and 'exposure'...
* Airbags excepted!
I had an Accord as a courtesy car, and really liked it. Solid, reliable, gimmick-free transport for those who want that kind of thing. Loads of equipment and excellent build quality.
It was too expensive though, and I suspect it was not competitive for fleets due to high CO2.
It's sad
I suspect that the new Accord - doing very well in the US, including the hybrid - will not come to the UK.
Honda seem to miss the mark with their pricing. I recently test drove the facelifted Civic Tourer. Really nice car, very refined and excellent handling, but too slow in petrol auto form, and they wanted nearly 27k for it. It was the top of the range, and very nicely made, but still...
It was too expensive though, and I suspect it was not competitive for fleets due to high CO2.
It's sad
I suspect that the new Accord - doing very well in the US, including the hybrid - will not come to the UK.
Honda seem to miss the mark with their pricing. I recently test drove the facelifted Civic Tourer. Really nice car, very refined and excellent handling, but too slow in petrol auto form, and they wanted nearly 27k for it. It was the top of the range, and very nicely made, but still...
That's a shame.
We have had our Accord 2.4 type S for 12 years now! 104,000 miles and it runs perfectly. Bought from new and everything on it still works! On it's original exhaust too, although it is just starting to blow a bit.
The only problem we have had is sticking rear brake calipers, both of which have been replaced over the last couple of years.
Only downside to this car is the fuel consumption. Low 30's at best. We have been looking for a replacement for a few years now, but just can't seem to part with it
We have had our Accord 2.4 type S for 12 years now! 104,000 miles and it runs perfectly. Bought from new and everything on it still works! On it's original exhaust too, although it is just starting to blow a bit.
The only problem we have had is sticking rear brake calipers, both of which have been replaced over the last couple of years.
Only downside to this car is the fuel consumption. Low 30's at best. We have been looking for a replacement for a few years now, but just can't seem to part with it
Grandad Gaz said:
That's a shame.
We have had our Accord 2.4 type S for 12 years now! 104,000 miles and it runs perfectly. Bought from new and everything on it still works! On it's original exhaust too, although it is just starting to blow a bit.
The only problem we have had is sticking rear brake calipers, both of which have been replaced over the last couple of years.
Only downside to this car is the fuel consumption. Low 30's at best. We have been looking for a replacement for a few years now, but just can't seem to part with it
Tough one isn't it! I have a 2003 2.4 Exec auto tourer with 86k, just had the exhaust done (£282 for the lot from Holdcroft Honda and £60 for my local garage to fit it), had one rear caliper done and a starter motor and that's all it's had, other than service items of course. Everything works as new, no squeaks, rattles, bumps in the night etc. Only downside is a spot weld on the rear arches is bubbling through the pain, this was an early problem on the tourer which they sorted. The bumpers are looking tatty but my mate has a paint shop so I can get that sorted. We have had our Accord 2.4 type S for 12 years now! 104,000 miles and it runs perfectly. Bought from new and everything on it still works! On it's original exhaust too, although it is just starting to blow a bit.
The only problem we have had is sticking rear brake calipers, both of which have been replaced over the last couple of years.
Only downside to this car is the fuel consumption. Low 30's at best. We have been looking for a replacement for a few years now, but just can't seem to part with it
I've been looking around for about a year now, I need the space of the tourer, I don't want a diesel and I do want some poke. I've dabbled with the 9-5 Aero estate but the quality isn't a match for the Accord. The Germans such as an A6 have laughable reliability. If I come across an 8th Gen 2.4 tourer I might just go for that.
Stu78 said:
Grandad Gaz said:
That's a shame.
We have had our Accord 2.4 type S for 12 years now! 104,000 miles and it runs perfectly. Bought from new and everything on it still works! On it's original exhaust too, although it is just starting to blow a bit.
The only problem we have had is sticking rear brake calipers, both of which have been replaced over the last couple of years.
Only downside to this car is the fuel consumption. Low 30's at best. We have been looking for a replacement for a few years now, but just can't seem to part with it
Tough one isn't it! I have a 2003 2.4 Exec auto tourer with 86k, just had the exhaust done (£282 for the lot from Holdcroft Honda and £60 for my local garage to fit it), had one rear caliper done and a starter motor and that's all it's had, other than service items of course. Everything works as new, no squeaks, rattles, bumps in the night etc. Only downside is a spot weld on the rear arches is bubbling through the pain, this was an early problem on the tourer which they sorted. The bumpers are looking tatty but my mate has a paint shop so I can get that sorted. We have had our Accord 2.4 type S for 12 years now! 104,000 miles and it runs perfectly. Bought from new and everything on it still works! On it's original exhaust too, although it is just starting to blow a bit.
The only problem we have had is sticking rear brake calipers, both of which have been replaced over the last couple of years.
Only downside to this car is the fuel consumption. Low 30's at best. We have been looking for a replacement for a few years now, but just can't seem to part with it
I've been looking around for about a year now, I need the space of the tourer, I don't want a diesel and I do want some poke. I've dabbled with the 9-5 Aero estate but the quality isn't a match for the Accord. The Germans such as an A6 have laughable reliability. If I come across an 8th Gen 2.4 tourer I might just go for that.
I've got a gen 8 Tourer Dec Type S that I bought for 11.5k at 5 yes old, but new it was 35k, so yes they were expensive new. But I don't think they should have been price at the same level as Mondeos and Insignias. I think it was built and marketed more of a premium car rather than reps car, but unfortunately everyone seems to want the perceived quality of a German car, even if they pay more for less. The general public just see it as a Honda like the Jazz that Doris down the road has got, rather than the Audi that the Jones' have just bought.
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