Hot draft through gearstick gaitor

Hot draft through gearstick gaitor

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ChazUwe

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245 posts

235 months

Sunday 14th June 2015
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Now that the spring temperatures are getting a little warmer I am looking at ways of reducing temps in the car as much as possible. Obviously removing the targa tops and opening the windows is the best option but sometimes this isn't always ideal! Also when stuck in traffic the airflow inside the car is minimal. Whilst the air con is quite effective and I am going to be following some guidance from Graham's bible to optimise it more, I do find that a lot of warm air is drawn up through the gearstick leather surround. I believe the car already has the improved tuffnol/ceramic stick so the 'knob' itself doesn't get hot through conduction of heat but I think the rubber gaiter under the leather surround may have perished or not be totally sealed.

I am going to remove the centre tunnel and check it out but I wanted to check if anyone knew what part to get as a replacement if required? I have seen this one:

http://www.racetechdirect.co.uk/f0081a-tvr-car-par...

But it is pricy for just a rubber boot, anyone used any alternatives that can do the job?

Also as a later T350 I have the roller screen across the rear of the tunnel, does this have to be removed to get the tunnel out or does the tunnel move forward far enough to clear it when tilting up to remove?

I was also going to us the opportunity to put some heat reflective foil around the top of the tunnel to help a little more. What sort of foil/barrier is best to use?

Thanks in advance for any advice you can give!

Konrod

870 posts

228 months

Monday 15th June 2015
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Yep, been down this route. There is a rubber gaiter to seal between gearstick and tunnel moulding. Mine (Tuscan) was held on with four self tappers (one per corner)but there was no seal betwen them, allowing hot air to enter the tunnel void and leak down to the seats. Simple solution - remove tappers and gaiter (in my case fix reverse light switch whilst there), then replace with tigerseal or similar and put the self tapper back. Did mine 3 years ago and problem solved, although the reverse light switch needs attention again :-(

Handbrake is a different problem - haven't really solved that except to make sure the factory heatshield material is stuck down on the tunnel so that it is tight to the side of the lever - the lever will still get hot though.

ChazUwe

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245 posts

235 months

Monday 15th June 2015
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Thanks for that Konrod, good to know someone else has had the same experience and has managed to resolve it fairly easily! Next time I have an afternoon spare I will give it a go!


dvs_dave

8,624 posts

225 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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The rubber draft gaiter beneath the leather one has probably perished. The part you linked to though is not the correct part. That's the gaiter that fits over the gearbox shift mechanism itself.

The part you need is from a Mk 3 or Mk 4 Ford Transit. See here for more: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=138...


chris watton

22,477 posts

260 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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The part you need has a square-ish base, and they are like rocking horse poo to find, so don't discard the one you have.

ChazUwe

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245 posts

235 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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Ok guys, I will get the centre console off and see what the deal is! Hopefully it just requires some resealing!

Any recommendations one best heat reflective barrier to install while I am there? I found this on ebay and was thinking it would do the job nicely?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171820811191?_trksid=p20...

Obviously meant for more high heat applications!

R7EBO

501 posts

142 months

Monday 27th July 2015
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An update on this - I enquired with Powers today if they knew how to get a new gaiter & pointed me to James Agger who are currently testing some they've had made. Should be available in a week or so!

chris watton

22,477 posts

260 months

Monday 27th July 2015
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R7EBO said:
An update on this - I enquired with Powers today if they knew how to get a new gaiter & pointed me to James Agger who are currently testing some they've had made. Should be available in a week or so!
Great news - please keep us in the loop for any more info on these!

ChazUwe

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245 posts

235 months

Monday 27th July 2015
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Very interesting, I have managed to reduce the hot air draft as when I got the centre tunnel off I could see that the front of the gaiter wasn't stuck down very well. I have added some sealant too this and although not stopped all warm air coming up through the leather gaiter of the gearstick and handbrake, it has reduced it considerably!

shep1001

4,600 posts

189 months

Sunday 23rd August 2015
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Having baked myself on the way back from Colchester yesterday, it was obvious mine had come loose again.


This time I made up a cardboard template and mounted the gaiter to that, then stuck the cardboard down to the tunnel. did the same thing round the handbrake. Hopefully it will be a little cooler on the next journey out!

Rib

2,548 posts

189 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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Any followup on this?

shep1001

4,600 posts

189 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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Rib said:
Any followup on this?
Not been out in mine since, will try to get out this week for a birthday blast - she's 13 years old tomorrow!

Rib

2,548 posts

189 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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more on finding a replacement, mine is well and truly buggered!

ChazUwe

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245 posts

235 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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I know Chris bought an alternative one from a motorsport website.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Not the cheapest so might be worth checking with James Aggar to see if they have tested their replacement yet?