9 Points on license & now caught by speed camera, what ban?
Discussion
20 years I've driven past a particular camera (4 times a week) and always gone through it correctly but this time I apparently didn't. I find it hard to believe with this camera because its just up the road from me is almost part of my psyche so I'll be asking some questions but what should they be?
Calibration certificate?
Any more?
That aside, if I did go through a 50 limit at 69 and with 9 points garnered already what is the likely outcome, cash and ban, please?
Thanks for your help.
MF
Calibration certificate?
Any more?
That aside, if I did go through a 50 limit at 69 and with 9 points garnered already what is the likely outcome, cash and ban, please?
Thanks for your help.
MF
giantdefy said:
3 more points a a 6 month totting ban assuming the other 9 are within 3 years (offence dates not conviction dates). Exceptional Hardship, to others, may get you out from the ban but you will still get points/fine.
Mitigating circumstances, which might include "exceptional hardship" to the offender or others.Yeah, sadly the other points are for speeding
So, is a 6 month ban the general consensus? I was kinda hoping for 3 months max.
Seems a tad harsh for a first ban in 30 years with no accidents involved in any of the 2 previous transgressions etc...
What will the financial penalty likely be, anyone know?
So, is a 6 month ban the general consensus? I was kinda hoping for 3 months max.
Seems a tad harsh for a first ban in 30 years with no accidents involved in any of the 2 previous transgressions etc...
What will the financial penalty likely be, anyone know?
gadgetmac said:
Yeah, sadly the other points are for speeding
So, is a 6 month ban the general consensus? I was kinda hoping for 3 months max.
Seems a tad harsh for a first ban in 30 years with no accidents involved in any of the 2 previous transgressions etc...
What will the financial penalty likely be, anyone know?
The standard PH answer is "a hefty fine" and another contributor will invariably say something like, "I got a £200 fine in 1989". The reality is somewhat different. You could argue for a fine equivalent to a fixed penalty, otherwise expect a "Band B" fine - roughly 100% of your net weekly income less one-third for an early guilty plea, subject to a maximum of £2500 on a motorway or £1000 otherwise.So, is a 6 month ban the general consensus? I was kinda hoping for 3 months max.
Seems a tad harsh for a first ban in 30 years with no accidents involved in any of the 2 previous transgressions etc...
What will the financial penalty likely be, anyone know?
I'm not defending my actions by any stretch. If I did the crime then I'll do the time, no problem.
I've 2 previous convictions amounting to 9 points. Both were camera based, 1 on dual carriageway and 1 on Mway. Prior to that the only other conviction I ever got was some 27 years ago when I'd just passed my test.
My comment about it being perhaps a little harsh is in relation to a chap in work who tore round a corner on a country road and collided with a stationary car putting 2 people in hospital and only got a 3 month ban.
I've 2 previous convictions amounting to 9 points. Both were camera based, 1 on dual carriageway and 1 on Mway. Prior to that the only other conviction I ever got was some 27 years ago when I'd just passed my test.
My comment about it being perhaps a little harsh is in relation to a chap in work who tore round a corner on a country road and collided with a stationary car putting 2 people in hospital and only got a 3 month ban.
gadgetmac said:
Yeah, sadly the other points are for speeding
So, is a 6 month ban the general consensus? I was kinda hoping for 3 months max.
Seems a tad harsh for a first ban in 30 years with no accidents involved in any of the 2 previous transgressions etc...
What will the financial penalty likely be, anyone know?
So for the last 20 years you have passed a speed camera four times a week so you clearly know it is there yet this time you went trough it not a little bit over the speed limit but a lot at 69 in a 50.So, is a 6 month ban the general consensus? I was kinda hoping for 3 months max.
Seems a tad harsh for a first ban in 30 years with no accidents involved in any of the 2 previous transgressions etc...
What will the financial penalty likely be, anyone know?
To be on a potential 12 points in a couple of years you dont seam to have learnt any lessons.
I suspect you will get a 3 month ban and £1000 fine but in cases similar to yours where a person disregards the speeding laws I would make the ban 6 months and a maximum fine which I believe is £2500.Or possibly give you 12 points but not ban you so you will have the knowledge of one slip up and you will get a ban ,oh and a £5000 fine.
btcc123 said:
So for the last 20 years you have passed a speed camera four times a week so you clearly know it is there yet this time you went trough it not a little bit over the speed limit but a lot at 69 in a 50.
See my first post, I'm struggling to understand that myself. I almost don't believe it unlike the previouse 2 events which I hold my hand up to.btcc123 said:
I suspect you will get a 3 month ban and £1000 fine
Seems balanced.btcc123 said:
but in cases similar to yours where a person disregards the speeding laws I would make the ban 6 months and a maximum fine which I believe is £2500.Or possibly give you 12 points but not ban you so you will have the knowledge of one slip up and you will get a ban ,oh and a £5000 fine.
Actually I'm only after peoples opinions on my ACTUAL possible fate thank you not what THEY would punish me with or I'm sure this thread will quickly fill up with "string him up" posts btcc123 said:
I suspect you will get a 3 month ban and £1000 fine but in cases similar to yours where a person disregards the speeding laws I would make the ban 6 months and a maximum fine which I believe is £2500.Or possibly give you 12 points but not ban you so you will have the knowledge of one slip up and you will get a ban ,oh and a £5000 fine.
Magistrates are required to give points if the giving of them will result in a totting ban. So a 3 month ban is not on the cards but 3 points and a 6 month totting ban very much is unless you can provide a convincing hardship argument. This needs to show hardship to others as the hardship of not having a licence is expected from the ban.Normal punishment would be six month ban and a nice fine, related to your income.
If you have mitigating circumstances then you may not get a ban at all. Engage the services of a legal professional if your job/house etc rely on you being able to drive.
I did this and got away with a big fine for being caught well over 100mph when I was a young idiot.
If you have mitigating circumstances then you may not get a ban at all. Engage the services of a legal professional if your job/house etc rely on you being able to drive.
I did this and got away with a big fine for being caught well over 100mph when I was a young idiot.
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