Calais anarchy - just as well Le Mans was last week!
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The news from the other side of the ditch is ridiculous... it's borderline anarchy over there!
MyFerryLink workers striking about their ferries being sold off by Eurotunnel (who were ordered to downsize their operation by the competition commission) to DFDS. So in protest and apparent fear for their jobs, they set tyre fires up at the entrance to Eurotunnel...!
The footage showing the traffic backlog as a result and the swarms of migrants around cars and clambering into moving trucks from the hard-shoulder of the motorway is genuinely disturbing... and yet I am at an absolute loss as to what Europe can do about that part of the problem.
MyFerryLink workers striking about their ferries being sold off by Eurotunnel (who were ordered to downsize their operation by the competition commission) to DFDS. So in protest and apparent fear for their jobs, they set tyre fires up at the entrance to Eurotunnel...!
The footage showing the traffic backlog as a result and the swarms of migrants around cars and clambering into moving trucks from the hard-shoulder of the motorway is genuinely disturbing... and yet I am at an absolute loss as to what Europe can do about that part of the problem.
The Calais Mayor was blaming DC that it was the UK's fault this was happening? Last year it was just as bad when the train was kaput and they were crawling out of the bushes to climb into trucks, scary. All i noticed this year was that they had cut down all the bushes!
However, you cant buy a model Eiffel tower or Selfie stick in Paris from anyone French. Is that the UK's fault as well? At Notre Dam you have armed police and military with automatic weapons but clearly illegal immigrants selling selfie sticks etc in the same place.
However, you cant buy a model Eiffel tower or Selfie stick in Paris from anyone French. Is that the UK's fault as well? At Notre Dam you have armed police and military with automatic weapons but clearly illegal immigrants selling selfie sticks etc in the same place.
This has been simmering since last year:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29799733
Luckily, the guardisn doesnt think we are a better country then france
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29799733
Luckily, the guardisn doesnt think we are a better country then france
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/...
My Mum & Dad were stuck in the middle of it yesterday, they were on their way back from Le Mans in the Camper, they said it was quite scary, there were constantly having the migrants trying the doors and windows, they managed to get a campsite nearby for the night and then got a tunnel over very early this morning and thankfully they have just arrived home. After seeing the footage on the TV it does make you wonder what can be done. I feel for the poor lorry drivers trying to earn a living and having to put up with everytime they make a crossing!
t400ble said:
Never understood why lorry rear doors are so easy to open
They climb onto the trailer axles and sit there. Its only when the underneath is full they move up! Its a tough one to watch as the sheer desperation of it all neutralizes any bad feeling I had about immigration. I have still to see females at Calais though as its just been young males so far.Christ knows how good the UK must look when you see how keen they are to get there.
Lensey said:
My Mum & Dad were stuck in the middle of it yesterday, they were on their way back from Le Mans in the Camper, they said it was quite scary, there were constantly having the migrants trying the doors and windows...
This was what a guy on the news who was interviewed mentioned - he said the fear element was ridiculous. He was in an MPV bringing his child and wife's elderly mother home and they were all frightened about how things would/could escalate.I fully appreciate that there's a problem and it's not clear how it can realistically be resolved. I think there's still a naive part of me that wonders why the UK seems to be so much more appealing than any of the other European countries...
madmacmcmad said:
With the worlds population doubling in the last 50 years and with no signs of slowing down, this is only going to get much, much worse. It is unsustainable. Without being inhumane, there is NO solution!
It's astonishingly scary to admit that you're probably right 
Edited by jazzdevil on Wednesday 24th June 12:42
madmacmcmad said:
With the worlds population doubling in the last 50 years and with no signs of slowing down, this is only going to get much, much worse. It is unsustainable. Without being inhumane, there is NO solution!
Nature always finds a way. Sadly the next war will probably be the one to fix this problem.fartkong said:
madmacmcmad said:
With the worlds population doubling in the last 50 years and with no signs of slowing down, this is only going to get much, much worse. It is unsustainable. Without being inhumane, there is NO solution!
Nature always finds a way. Sadly the next war will probably be the one to fix this problem.Drove past the 'jungle' last week on the way back from LM (trying to find the cheap booze but went the wrong way) and it looked fairly horrendous. Must be a pretty bleak place to live but I suppose it must be better than where they were before. They were building the wall alongside the main road to the ferry at the time which I suppose will help for the traffic.
I wonder how many will have snuck into the UK as a result of this strike, must have been a few slip through the net.
I arrived in Calais on Wednesday night around 22:00 before Le Mans, and for the first time I did see people wandering around near the Tunnel / CitiEurope complex, including a few women, which i thought was odd for people to be walking around the middle of a large green roundabout.
As I looked further i could see more people walking and generally milling around some of the scrub land.
I travel to and from France by Tunnel and Ferries twice a year, and have done so for about 10 years, and this is the first time I was able to see for myself what has been hitting the news for quite some time.
Given that there are so many people, it is clear to me that the French approach is to ignore it as best they can and hope they get over to the UK or give up and go elsewhere.
I can imagine it is quite threatening if you are heading to the port, personally I find driving on Mad Friday far more worrying !
As I looked further i could see more people walking and generally milling around some of the scrub land.
I travel to and from France by Tunnel and Ferries twice a year, and have done so for about 10 years, and this is the first time I was able to see for myself what has been hitting the news for quite some time.
Given that there are so many people, it is clear to me that the French approach is to ignore it as best they can and hope they get over to the UK or give up and go elsewhere.
I can imagine it is quite threatening if you are heading to the port, personally I find driving on Mad Friday far more worrying !
It's unfortunate, true, but we are once again seen as the soft touch of Europe - and that's just by the other countries! Everyone at Calais trying to get to the UK illegally, is in France on the same basis - i.e. illegally.
France, Spain, Portugal, Italy (where they mostly initially land in Europe) don't give a damn about them, as long as they (eventually) get over to England and away from mainland Europe.
Our welfare system is shagged, yet other countries are happy to pile on the misery, for both us and the illegals.
If the French police dealt with their problem, on the same basis as they deal with most others issues - including speeders en-route to Le Mans - we might see a slow-down. As they don't, then it has to be seen as a political directive and this will all end in big tears.
France, Spain, Portugal, Italy (where they mostly initially land in Europe) don't give a damn about them, as long as they (eventually) get over to England and away from mainland Europe.
Our welfare system is shagged, yet other countries are happy to pile on the misery, for both us and the illegals.
If the French police dealt with their problem, on the same basis as they deal with most others issues - including speeders en-route to Le Mans - we might see a slow-down. As they don't, then it has to be seen as a political directive and this will all end in big tears.
We do have a Army last time I remembered? Its about time they were called in to protect citizens, go through all lorries and weed out these knife carrying illegal migrants.
The French have an army too, they normally don't take any crap, so why are these services not being used to put these people back on a boat to where they came from, then let them change their own political corrupt system in their original countries.
All I hear is spinless EU Politicians saying we are part of Europe and must take a share of these illegal immigrants!
Well they can all f
k Off Mr Farage was right!
The French have an army too, they normally don't take any crap, so why are these services not being used to put these people back on a boat to where they came from, then let them change their own political corrupt system in their original countries.
All I hear is spinless EU Politicians saying we are part of Europe and must take a share of these illegal immigrants!
Well they can all f
k Off Mr Farage was right! fatboy18 said:
We do have a Army last time I remembered? Its about time they were called in to protect citizens, go through all lorries and weed out these knife carrying illegal migrants.
The French have an army too, they normally don't take any crap, so why are these services not being used to put these people back on a boat to where they came from, then let them change their own political corrupt system in their original countries.
All I hear is spinless EU Politicians saying we are part of Europe and must take a share of these illegal immigrants!
Well they can all fk Off Mr Farage was right!
+1 SOFT TOUCH England.The French have an army too, they normally don't take any crap, so why are these services not being used to put these people back on a boat to where they came from, then let them change their own political corrupt system in their original countries.
All I hear is spinless EU Politicians saying we are part of Europe and must take a share of these illegal immigrants!
Well they can all f
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