Considering buying a 2006-09 XF 2.7 TDVi

Considering buying a 2006-09 XF 2.7 TDVi

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Username888

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505 posts

200 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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I really fancy one of these, - I am looking to spend about 12k, obviously I'll be on the lookout for a decent example with FSH, - my main concern is reliability, and the cost of problems.

Wondering if anyone can comment on how reliable I could expect a decent example to be.

Is spending 12k on one which has done about 80 - 100k miles going to be a money pit? TIA

w824gb3

257 posts

221 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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There are a few issues with the 2.7d engine such as DPF clogging, egr sticking & oil dilution. Most of these were fixed when Jaguar introduced the 3.0 (which is also more powerful/better mpg & cheaper to tax). So if I were you i'd save a bit more & get the 3.0

pete5570

270 posts

171 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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Depending on the miles you do, it might be worth looking at the petrol version. Less to go wrong on them. I keep looking at these and prices are coming down now, but I only do 5-6k a year, making a petrol the better choice.

Username888

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505 posts

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Wednesday 24th June 2015
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w824gb3 said:
There are a few issues with the 2.7d engine such as DPF clogging, egr sticking & oil dilution. Most of these were fixed when Jaguar introduced the 3.0 (which is also more powerful/better mpg & cheaper to tax). So if I were you i'd save a bit more & get the 3.0
It's a significant rise in budget, but the updated model does look lovely.... I know little about them - how reliable they are... - will do some research, although I really didnt want to spend thousands more...

I do hanker after something which is lovely and quiet inside, and will float along, - but also has decent power when needed... - interior on the new one also looks lovely

Username888

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Wednesday 24th June 2015
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pete5570 said:
Depending on the miles you do, it might be worth looking at the petrol version. Less to go wrong on them. I keep looking at these and prices are coming down now, but I only do 5-6k a year, making a petrol the better choice.
I will take a look and do some sums... - most of my journeys are motorway ones (outside rush hour) however - and circa 9,000 PA

MRPULLHARD

318 posts

130 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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IT ONLY CAME OUT IN 2008 !

Username888

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505 posts

200 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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MRPULLHARD said:
IT ONLY CAME OUT IN 2008 !
I meant XJ, but cannot edit it. Thanks for shouting and letting me know though smile - hope you calm down soon.

fatboy b

9,492 posts

215 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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Username888 said:
pete5570 said:
Depending on the miles you do, it might be worth looking at the petrol version. Less to go wrong on them. I keep looking at these and prices are coming down now, but I only do 5-6k a year, making a petrol the better choice.
I will take a look and do some sums... - most of my journeys are motorway ones (outside rush hour) however - and circa 9,000 PA
9000 miles PA = V8.

t400ble

1,804 posts

120 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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Buy a Petrol if 9k is all you are doing

MRPULLHARD

318 posts

130 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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sorry mate wasn't shouting ! should have copped that it said TDVI anyway ! best of luck with your search !

Username888

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505 posts

200 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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9k is all I am doing, but the vast majority of that will be motorway miles, - surely i'm going to be getting roughly 25mpg (guess) with a petrol V8 on a run, and something like 45mpg with a 3.0DS? What am I missing..?

pherlopolus

2,087 posts

157 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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I had an s-type with the 2.7 diesel engine, and aside from the the omnipresent threat of lunched turbos or spinning main bearings it was ok, and returned 43 if driven very carefully on the motorway, 24 round town, long time average of about 33mpg.

If it's not had a cambelt change it will need one soon (10 years / 105k miles, same for fuel pump belt)

If I had known when I bought it I was only going to be doing 10k pa i'd have bought a V8.

Username888

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505 posts

200 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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I think I have given up on the idea of a 2.7TDVi XJ. I am quite tempted by a 2010/11 3.0 XF 3.0 S. From what I have been reading, they seem pretty reliable...?

9k mixture of urban and motorway, I would consider petrol, - consdering that 85% of my driving is will be motorway, it makes sense to me (although I've probably missed something here?) to go for the diesel, plus the tax is £225, instead of £500

pherlopolus

2,087 posts

157 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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Username888 said:
I think I have given up on the idea of a 2.7TDVi XJ. I am quite tempted by a 2010/11 3.0 XF 3.0 S. From what I have been reading, they seem pretty reliable...?

9k mixture of urban and motorway, I would consider petrol, - consdering that 85% of my driving is will be motorway, it makes sense to me (although I've probably missed something here?) to go for the diesel, plus the tax is £225, instead of £500
I don't think the fuel cost difference will be that much considering, My experiences of my s-type and my neighbours xf have put me off older jaguars (5 years or older) due to the running costs attributed to the non-engine bits that go wrong though... Bushes, Suspension, Aircon, Gearbox servicing all adds up...

I'd only get another one on a 2 year lease...

MRPULLHARD

318 posts

130 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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isn't the v6 model xj supposed to be frugal with the xj being aluminium ?

Triple7

4,013 posts

236 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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Go for the 3.0 XF-S. Awesome car....

w824gb3

257 posts

221 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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I've got the 3.0d XF-S. Its got all the performance of my old XJR yet i can see 48mpg on a steady motorway run. Love it.

Username888

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505 posts

200 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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Sounds great. The best of all worlds.

Do you think it wise to pay 14k for a 2011 model which has done say 80k. Fsh

Or would a warranty be absolutely necessary..? Thoughts?

pete5570

270 posts

171 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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I would do some research on these modern diesels, not just jags, all can be problematic. We looked at loads when my wife changed her car and a lot of dealers were asking what mileage we do a year, when we told them 6-7k, we were told about potential DPF issues when doing low miles. There is a chance of big bills if you bag a wrong un. We were looking at Landrovers where the choice of petrol are very few, we ended up getting a very rare 3.2 petrol freelander. I personally, wouldn't have a 2009 onwards diesel unless it was leased or a company was picking up the tab. The amount of kit these later diesels have is very complex. Do some research on the net for these issues, there are loads. If you really want a diesel, make sure you get a very good warranty that covers thing like DPF, EGRs etc.

w824gb3

257 posts

221 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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Modern diesels are not as bad as all the internet horror stories suggest. People only post when things go wrong. My commute to work is only 4 miles each way yet i've never had the "dpf full" message. I do longer runs at weekend & make sure i rev past 2850rpm (which is when the 2nd turbo comes on stream) a couple of times a week to keep the actuators etc from sticking. Seems to be doing the trick for me.