Magic '37'

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velocefica

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4,640 posts

108 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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Might be a bit of a waste of thread space ( prior warning ). But over the last few months I have heard of a lot of people in my work, social circle getting speeding tickets for doing 37mph in a 30mph about 12 -15 people in all.

Many have been caught on the same stretch of road or within a few miles of each other so it's quite possible that it was the same camera car or plod hiding behind a tree/lamp post etc.

Is it just a coincidence or is it that 37mph considered the point of no return. As they can't appeal it as the 10% plus 3mph discretion doesn't apply. Most have taken the driver awareness course but a few are considering fighting it all the way (being stubborn or ignorant or both).

Just seems odd.


BertBert

19,025 posts

211 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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The 10%+3 discretion doesn't exist. The way that "guideline" worked was...

Below 10%+2 plod had discretion not to issue a ticket
at 10%+2 or above the guidance said to plod issue a ticket

Changed quite a lot now with the existence of SACs.

Bert

Cliftonite

8,406 posts

138 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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As the Awareness Course didn't work, then perhaps the £100 fine and 3 points this time might improve their driving?

A true 37 mph will generally show nearer 40 mph on the speedometer.


4rephill

5,040 posts

178 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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Cliftonite said:
....A true 37 mph will generally show nearer 40 mph on the speedometer.
That's far too much of a generalisation!- It all depends on the car.

Having compared the sat nav GPS speed readings to the speedometers in My two cars, the German car would be ready exactly 37mph, whilst the Italian car would be reading @ 42mph.



anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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Cliftonite said:
As the Awareness Course didn't work, then perhaps the £100 fine and 3 points this time might improve their driving?
How to you know the course didn't work? He doesn't say any one person was done more than once, just that some of those caught took the course offered.

Cliftonite

8,406 posts

138 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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^^^^^ You are quite correct! Sorry!


Davidonly

1,080 posts

193 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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Cliftonite said:
As the Awareness Course didn't work, then perhaps the £100 fine and 3 points this time might improve their driving?

A true 37 mph will generally show nearer 40 mph on the speedometer.
What has any of this got to do with the standard of anyones' driving??????

TwistingMyMelon

6,385 posts

205 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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Tell them to drive slower, 37 will be circa 40 on most speedos, Don't waste your life overthinking it, the limit is 30 and they got done doing 37

Cliftonite

8,406 posts

138 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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Davidonly said:
What has any of this got to do with the standard of anyones' driving??????
Driving at 37 mph in a 30 mph limit is generally an indication of poor driving.



Who me ?

7,455 posts

212 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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"Driving at 37 mph in a 30 mph limit is generally an indication of poor driving.", or of an incorrectly set speed limit, or one set ,or with OUT due regard to road safety /85th percentile ,but due to a good place to enhance the profits of the road "safety ?" pratenrship. ( Or perhaps the WRI have decided that anything higher is BAD).

Jonsv8

7,207 posts

124 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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Who me said:
"Driving at 37 mph in a 30 mph limit is generally an indication of poor driving.", or of an incorrectly set speed limit, or one set ,or with OUT due regard to road safety /85th percentile ,but due to a good place to enhance the profits of the road "safety ?" pratenrship. ( Or perhaps the WRI have decided that anything higher is BAD).
The state needs the funds to pay for birth certificates for those that have lost them. There are some on here who think that's reasonable.

Being caught doing 37 in a 30 is either a driver who didn't know the limit or a driver who decided to break the speed limit. The merits of the actual speed limit is immaterial. It really is as simple as that.

Pete317

1,430 posts

222 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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Jonsv8 said:
Being caught doing 37 in a 30 is either a driver who didn't know the limit or a driver who decided to break the speed limit. The merits of the actual speed limit is immaterial. It really is as simple as that.
You left out the third option - a driver who didn't accord much importance to their numerical speed

Jonsv8

7,207 posts

124 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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Pete317 said:
Jonsv8 said:
Being caught doing 37 in a 30 is either a driver who didn't know the limit or a driver who decided to break the speed limit. The merits of the actual speed limit is immaterial. It really is as simple as that.
You left out the third option - a driver who didn't accord much importance to their numerical speed
Isn't that my second option when they alone felt it was safe to exceed the limit?

PAUL RUN

136 posts

163 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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I work in the same general areas as a speed awareness training centre..

...its easy to tell those that have been on the course when I leave in the evening...
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1. some drive at 29mph In a 30. indicate at every junction. awareness for the moment improved...
2. others...foot down....and brrrrrmmmmm....
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thing is about once a month the rozzers sit in a side junction in a 30 limit about 100ft before a national speed limit zone....they often then have chats with No.2 drivers.....

Monkeylegend

26,323 posts

231 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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velocefica said:
a lot of people in my work, social circle getting speeding tickets for doing 37mph in a 30mph about 12 -15 people in all.

Many have been caught on the same stretch of road or within a few miles of each other so it's quite possible that it was the same camera car or plod hiding behind a tree/lamp post etc.

You would have thought a little light would have come on after the first 3 or 4 got caught, and the rest would raise their awareness along that stretch of road.

Boydie88

3,283 posts

149 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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"37 means speedo at 40" - this nonsense needs to stop.

"If someone is doing 37, maybe the 30 limit is too low" - more nonsense. It's 30 because if a kid does run out, they have a lot higher chance of surviving than being hit at a faster speed. The VX will hit 30 in under 2 seconds - I'd be amazed if there was ANY 30 limits I couldn't break.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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Vaud

50,405 posts

155 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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Boydie88 said:
"37 means speedo at 40" - this nonsense needs to stop.
Let's put it this way. The speedo will not be reading below 37, they are not allowed to under-read.

Martin_Hx

3,955 posts

198 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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Sounds to me like the 40mph brigade we all love getting snapped to me!

Pete317

1,430 posts

222 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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Jonsv8 said:
Pete317 said:
Jonsv8 said:
Being caught doing 37 in a 30 is either a driver who didn't know the limit or a driver who decided to break the speed limit. The merits of the actual speed limit is immaterial. It really is as simple as that.
You left out the third option - a driver who didn't accord much importance to their numerical speed
Isn't that my second option when they alone felt it was safe to exceed the limit?
No - the difference is intent. In the third option the driver isn't considering their numerical speed at all.
Just like you don't have to look at your speedo to know if you've slowed down enough to go around a corner, for example.