Mobile van in a 40 area reduced to 20 for no road markings
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As per the title. My girlfriend just texted me saying she's panicking about having been doing close to 40 (in what is normally a 40 limit) which had been reduced by signs to 20mph because of no road markings. She's been passed about 18/19 months and has had no issues with points etc. so far.
Assuming that the mobile van applies the 20 limit and not the 40 one, will it be looked on any differently to breaking the limit in a non-reduced zone?
If not, is she likely to get 6 points (and a re-test needed) rather than 3?
Assuming that the mobile van applies the 20 limit and not the 40 one, will it be looked on any differently to breaking the limit in a non-reduced zone?
If not, is she likely to get 6 points (and a re-test needed) rather than 3?
spud989 said:
No, it's a back road between Doncaster and South Elmsall - not built up. It had no markings/had had some resurfacing work recently, I think. In fact, the regular limit may be 50 - she was unclear in her message.
Unless I'm missing something here, no signs and no street lights then it's NSL: 60 for a single carriageway.hornetrider said:
Sounds like an advisory 20 to me - if it's for chippings. Don't think they are enforceable.
jmorgan said:
This one of them roadworks resurfacing with an advisory 20?
I think so. I'm going to go look at it myself tonight to see. She said that some traffic around her was doing her speed but some were slower. Around here they have been applying temp limits and massively disruptive temp traffic lights for works that don't even take place on the carriageway - in fact the only encroachment is for the traffic light units. The limits are depicted as enforceable - with the 50 repeaters blanked out and large 30 signs - circular with red borders. I haven't checked to see if they actually did apply for legally enforceable limits.
If it's just one of those 20 signs with not red border it's advisory only, not legally enforceable.
If it's just one of those 20 signs with not red border it's advisory only, not legally enforceable.
V8forweekends said:
Around here they have been applying temp limits and massively disruptive temp traffic lights for works that don't even take place on the carriageway - in fact the only encroachment is for the traffic light units. The limits are depicted as enforceable - with the 50 repeaters blanked out and large 30 signs - circular with red borders. I haven't checked to see if they actually did apply for legally enforceable limits.
If it's just one of those 20 signs with not red border it's advisory only, not legally enforceable.
Red border must be a circle. For loose chippings, etc, they usually have a red triangle, which is a "warning", not a formal limit.If it's just one of those 20 signs with not red border it's advisory only, not legally enforceable.
flemke said:
V8forweekends said:
Around here they have been applying temp limits and massively disruptive temp traffic lights for works that don't even take place on the carriageway - in fact the only encroachment is for the traffic light units. The limits are depicted as enforceable - with the 50 repeaters blanked out and large 30 signs - circular with red borders. I haven't checked to see if they actually did apply for legally enforceable limits.
If it's just one of those 20 signs with not red border it's advisory only, not legally enforceable.
Red border must be a circle. For loose chippings, etc, they usually have a red triangle, which is a "warning", not a formal limit.If it's just one of those 20 signs with not red border it's advisory only, not legally enforceable.
L1OFF said:
its a shame they are not enforceable as anybody who had their pride and joy machine gunned with loose chippings by the morons that ignore these limits.
Fair enough, but the flip side is that sometimes the geniuses who are responsible for roadworks leave the speed "limit" signs up for many weeks after the last loose chipping has been flung off the road.V8forweekends said:
flemke said:
V8forweekends said:
Around here they have been applying temp limits and massively disruptive temp traffic lights for works that don't even take place on the carriageway - in fact the only encroachment is for the traffic light units. The limits are depicted as enforceable - with the 50 repeaters blanked out and large 30 signs - circular with red borders. I haven't checked to see if they actually did apply for legally enforceable limits.
If it's just one of those 20 signs with not red border it's advisory only, not legally enforceable.
Red border must be a circle. For loose chippings, etc, they usually have a red triangle, which is a "warning", not a formal limit.If it's just one of those 20 signs with not red border it's advisory only, not legally enforceable.
Rude-boy said:
The 'gunners' almost always seem to be driving something with more than 4 wheels or that isn't owned by them!
'tother day I was approximately observing the temporary 20 limit in place due to surface dressing when towards me comes an ambulance with lights doing well over 20 and using the middle of the road where all the loose gravel had gathered. Pebbledashed. Grrrrr.Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff