Has PH changed the way you behave online?
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I'm fully expecting this "Not to go the way the OP intended"
You've got to be thick skinned to get the most out of these forums. An incredibly helpful and caring place at times. Other times full of knackers, tossers and their like.
It toughens you up in a way. Cutting banter, saying things you think that perhaps you shouldn't. You can be mocked, and put on your arse one minute, and get a personal message with helpful info the next.
Does the rough and tumble manner of the site change the way you behave on other sites?
I got in bother on a little local forum the other week. A silly prissy woman was complaining about something or nothing to do with aircraft noise saying it had unsettled her. She also wondered why it had to fly so close to houses. It had been a search and rescue helicopter looking for someone in trouble. My response was robust along the lines of FFS, if you don't like rescue helicopters saving lives, don't buy a house by the sea. Air crew out in all weather risking their lives and the best you can do is whinge and whine. They didn't fly too close to houses. You are clearly a fool. I may have been a trifle insulting.
On PH what I said would hardly raise an eyebrow.i
Well I got PMs of moderators, and lots of "how rude" offended responses. One poster said I was a "horrible, horrible person"
It dawned on me, it was the Internet equivilant of someone behaving like they are in a rugby club bar when they are actually in a genteel tea room.
I'd behaved in appropriately.
So has your PH attitude got you in bother, or indeed won you praise elsewhere on the web or indeed in real life?
Let the banter and insults begin.
You've got to be thick skinned to get the most out of these forums. An incredibly helpful and caring place at times. Other times full of knackers, tossers and their like.
It toughens you up in a way. Cutting banter, saying things you think that perhaps you shouldn't. You can be mocked, and put on your arse one minute, and get a personal message with helpful info the next.
Does the rough and tumble manner of the site change the way you behave on other sites?
I got in bother on a little local forum the other week. A silly prissy woman was complaining about something or nothing to do with aircraft noise saying it had unsettled her. She also wondered why it had to fly so close to houses. It had been a search and rescue helicopter looking for someone in trouble. My response was robust along the lines of FFS, if you don't like rescue helicopters saving lives, don't buy a house by the sea. Air crew out in all weather risking their lives and the best you can do is whinge and whine. They didn't fly too close to houses. You are clearly a fool. I may have been a trifle insulting.
On PH what I said would hardly raise an eyebrow.i
Well I got PMs of moderators, and lots of "how rude" offended responses. One poster said I was a "horrible, horrible person"
It dawned on me, it was the Internet equivilant of someone behaving like they are in a rugby club bar when they are actually in a genteel tea room.
I'd behaved in appropriately.
So has your PH attitude got you in bother, or indeed won you praise elsewhere on the web or indeed in real life?
Let the banter and insults begin.
Edited by wildcat45 on Sunday 28th June 10:33
I avoid replying to people on social media generally. You could've gone in a bit softer by the sounds of it, probably best to with the self important FBers and these types of 'groups' on there. Give them perspective without completely insulting them.
People on here are fair game for double barrel slating though
People on here are fair game for double barrel slating though
wildcat45 said:
Agreeable stuff
I think it's a place where I can behave more like I want to. If i'm in a bad mood you'll know it, but if I'm in a better mood you'll know that too, the banter on here is at building site level and not to be used on gentler forums. Yes i've done pretty much what you did too! It's so easy to flick from one site to another and forget the other lot just don't get where you are coming from even though you're still typing at the same keyboard, looking at the same screen at other faceless people who you don't know. It's like leaving a stag do in Blackpool to do afternoon tea with the Vicar.Whilst I don't wish for your thread to deviate at this stage, I think it could go on to 'Has PH (or the internet) changed the way you behave in real life?'
When chatting to a mate of mine the other day he looked at me and said "Well that escalated quickly!"
PH is the only real online forum I use regularly and it was pretty much as I expected in terms of the comments etc. As such, no it hasn't changed the way I behave online however it has opened my eyes to how best to use sausages and cans of Red Bull.
P.S. OP, you were well within your rights to say what you did to that silly woman. She should MTFU and appreciate the hard work those men and women do on a daily basis - probably a far harder task than she ever has to do. f
king idiot.
P.S. OP, you were well within your rights to say what you did to that silly woman. She should MTFU and appreciate the hard work those men and women do on a daily basis - probably a far harder task than she ever has to do. f
king idiot.
I wouldn't say it has changed the way I behave, but it has certainly set the bar quite high as far as the expectations of a forum. I don't visit others much, but when I do, I am often surprised at the amount of nonsense people post and are never pulled up on...never mind the really poor use of English and text speak.
PH has made me more aware about a number of things which are all "life lessons" like internet security - not giving away too much about yourself, being careful about boasting or generally bigging yourself up.
I mostly like the spelling and grammar Nazis although there are some "earnest" posts and threads where it's inappropriate.
Other forums appear to have much lower standards all round - from the quality of the post to it's content. PH sets a high bar and it's better for it
Remember that most of the sub forums are far less aggressive. Works both ways.
I mostly like the spelling and grammar Nazis although there are some "earnest" posts and threads where it's inappropriate.
Other forums appear to have much lower standards all round - from the quality of the post to it's content. PH sets a high bar and it's better for it
Remember that most of the sub forums are far less aggressive. Works both ways.
I don't think it's PH as opposed to just old age, but ten years ago I'd argue a point into the ground and generate half of a 15 page thread arguing about the Iraq War, God, climate change or whatever, complete with trawling the internet for tens of man hours to mame sure my points were valid and accurate before posting them.
These days I often find myself getting a sentence into a reply I'm writing befkre deciding it's not worth the effort and I should go for a Sunday run/drive/ do almost anything else instead.
These days I often find myself getting a sentence into a reply I'm writing befkre deciding it's not worth the effort and I should go for a Sunday run/drive/ do almost anything else instead.
SpeckledJim said:
This is the least pleasant place on the internet that I ever spend any time. Nineteen twentieths of PH is now pretty awful.
Whether the powers-that-be know or care how unpleasant PH is a lot of the time, I dunno?
I agree in parts. Certain sections are horrendous and I don't believe for a second people actually talk the same way they do in public. Unless they are picking a fight every five minutes. Whether the powers-that-be know or care how unpleasant PH is a lot of the time, I dunno?
The thing is, those bits you read and draw a wry smile about and not post anything, it's always the same names that derail a thread and turn into a twenty page leviathan.
They remind me of a guy kicking off with a waiter about the service he received. He went into a tirade of abuse listing other places he's had bad service and ended up saying something along the lines of 'I always end up getting s
tty service everywhere I go!'. The correct reply would have been 'maybe it's not everyone else, maybe it's you, you fking ahole'. Alas there wasn't a bearded company director available at the time to deliver the line. To answer the op. Yes. PH has changed the way I am online. I'm ever so slightly more cynical about people's stories. I manage to both ride a bike a couple of times a week and do a daily 89 mile round trip for work and I can't remember when I've either raised my voice/finger on a bike or used my horn or swerved or emergency braked or anything remotely interesting as I go about my life.
No. Rule 1 for any forum should always be "lurk moar".
I always equate a forum to walking into a local's bar. You have to get used to customs and foibles, gradually introduce yourself over time before you are accepted. There's always one c*ck that's barely tolerated, so don't fall into the mistake of thinking that said person is truly representative of the community.
I remember starting a new job way back in 1988. At the end of the week, we all went to the pub (being the height of summer), where my first act was to buy a round to ingratiate myself. The second was to listen and to observe behaviour. Someone else started a few weeks after, and his approach was slightly different. He tried joining in banter from the get-go, and a work colleague pulled me aside to mention that she thought him a little inappropriate because his jokes were too familiar for someone who didn't know her. In other words, he was trying too hard and was trying to short-cut the getting-to-know-you process.
I had to leave communities in the past because I felt I couldn't fit in to the established rules (far too much tip-toeing on eggshells - pretty much like the OP).
I always equate a forum to walking into a local's bar. You have to get used to customs and foibles, gradually introduce yourself over time before you are accepted. There's always one c*ck that's barely tolerated, so don't fall into the mistake of thinking that said person is truly representative of the community.
I remember starting a new job way back in 1988. At the end of the week, we all went to the pub (being the height of summer), where my first act was to buy a round to ingratiate myself. The second was to listen and to observe behaviour. Someone else started a few weeks after, and his approach was slightly different. He tried joining in banter from the get-go, and a work colleague pulled me aside to mention that she thought him a little inappropriate because his jokes were too familiar for someone who didn't know her. In other words, he was trying too hard and was trying to short-cut the getting-to-know-you process.
I had to leave communities in the past because I felt I couldn't fit in to the established rules (far too much tip-toeing on eggshells - pretty much like the OP).
glazbagun said:
I don't think it's PH as opposed to just old age, but ten years ago I'd argue a point into the ground and generate half of a 15 page thread arguing about the Iraq War, God, climate change or whatever, complete with trawling the internet for tens of man hours to make sure my points were valid and accurate before posting them.
These days I often find myself getting a sentence into a reply I'm writing before deciding it's not worth the effort and I should go for a Sunday run/drive/ do almost anything else instead.
I agree.These days I often find myself getting a sentence into a reply I'm writing before deciding it's not worth the effort and I should go for a Sunday run/drive/ do almost anything else instead.
It's not worth getting into a protracted tit-for-tat on a forum. Discussion is fine but too often it descends into a dialogue of the deaf. Stating your point of view then getting the f
k out is often the best option.There are some posters who will argue their point of view ad nauseam until they kill the thread they're in stone dead. You'll probably have your own impression of who I'm thinking of. When you see them enter a discussion you know that it's time to click the "ignore" button on "My Stuff" and move on.
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