Hmm. Etiquette issue dog lead aggression.
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He has no fear. He also thinks he's 5 times bigger than he is. He's a strange old mutt but utterly loveable and goofy the rest of the time.
One good thing he definitely has a soft mouth. He's not one of those dogs that grips on for their life.
I'm not an expert on dogs fighting it may be that he's just a really good actor at acting hard. To me it looks very shocking when he starts snarling. ( remember that scene in mad max 2 it's a bit like that )
Never had this with my other dogs my old GSD was a soppy old thing. I'm hoping some socialisation with a dog he gets on with will help. I'll be contacting that trainer.
One good thing I worked on from a pup and I'm glad I did. He's not at all possessive. He was dropping his stick for those two dogs up there no problem. He also didn't react to the small one that was a little possessive.
1:34 lol
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3LA5c0b4VeE
One good thing he definitely has a soft mouth. He's not one of those dogs that grips on for their life.
I'm not an expert on dogs fighting it may be that he's just a really good actor at acting hard. To me it looks very shocking when he starts snarling. ( remember that scene in mad max 2 it's a bit like that )
Never had this with my other dogs my old GSD was a soppy old thing. I'm hoping some socialisation with a dog he gets on with will help. I'll be contacting that trainer.
One good thing I worked on from a pup and I'm glad I did. He's not at all possessive. He was dropping his stick for those two dogs up there no problem. He also didn't react to the small one that was a little possessive.
1:34 lol
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3LA5c0b4VeE
Edited by Pesty on Tuesday 30th June 22:33
Pesty said:
I'm not an expert on dogs fighting it may be that he's just a really good actor at acting hard. To me it looks very shocking when he starts snarling. ( remember that scene in mad max 2 it's a bit like that )
I think that is the point. A normal dog fight is a lot of posturing noise and snarling and baring of teeth.then the humans start panicking and it gets out of hand.
In most cases all the dogs are doing is just finding their place in the pecking order and won't come to any serious harm.
Funnily enough since getting an enormous dog we have had zero dog fights most give him one look and slope off - which is really unfair on him as he is soft as anything. Just got in from a walk were two collies came absolutely carreering over to us (we have a pug, a bulldog and mastiff). They started giving it large with the two small ones (not viscous but a bit of growling and pushing the pug to the floor) then Bertie gallops over and one turned and ran back to the owner and other immediately
rolled over.
In 99.9% of cases it's just dogs being dogs.
[quote=desolate]
I think that is the point. A normal dog fight is a lot of posturing noise and snarling and baring of teeth.
then the humans start panicking and it gets out of hand.
In most cases all the dogs are doing is just finding their place in the pecking order and won't come to any serious harm.
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Humans regularly forget that dogs live by different rules and communicate in very different ways! A lot of the time, it's literally just this, noise! Teeth get displayed, it gets noisy, but more often than not it's ritual rather than a fight. You'll know when it's a fight.
When we do the protection phase in IPO, when the dog has a full bite on the sleeve, the handler controlling the dog applies pressure on the line connected to the dogs harness to help build drive. It's the equivalent to two drunk men arguing fairly harmlessly, then people breaking it up, it's this point when it escalates it to arms swinging when they are dragged away from each other. Applying pressure to the line connected to the dog is used to do the same thing, build more drive, the more you pull the more the dog fights. This is how the human element interfering between dogs fighting actually escalates things further, pulling them away adds fuel to the fire. I don't know the correct way to untangle a dog fight, but do know that as Desolate said, the human element here helps get things out of control.
I think that is the point. A normal dog fight is a lot of posturing noise and snarling and baring of teeth.
then the humans start panicking and it gets out of hand.
In most cases all the dogs are doing is just finding their place in the pecking order and won't come to any serious harm.
quote]
Humans regularly forget that dogs live by different rules and communicate in very different ways! A lot of the time, it's literally just this, noise! Teeth get displayed, it gets noisy, but more often than not it's ritual rather than a fight. You'll know when it's a fight.
When we do the protection phase in IPO, when the dog has a full bite on the sleeve, the handler controlling the dog applies pressure on the line connected to the dogs harness to help build drive. It's the equivalent to two drunk men arguing fairly harmlessly, then people breaking it up, it's this point when it escalates it to arms swinging when they are dragged away from each other. Applying pressure to the line connected to the dog is used to do the same thing, build more drive, the more you pull the more the dog fights. This is how the human element interfering between dogs fighting actually escalates things further, pulling them away adds fuel to the fire. I don't know the correct way to untangle a dog fight, but do know that as Desolate said, the human element here helps get things out of control.
Pesty said:
No he's intact.
Perhaps bex can help here but I've been told by a vet that behaviour doesn't change.
No change in our yorkie cross apart from seems to like coming for a cuddle bit more. Still a cocky little st who protects our wimpy dog (mentioned earlier) when she gets picked on.Perhaps bex can help here but I've been told by a vet that behaviour doesn't change.
I am led to believe this is a myth..
TheLordJohn said:
My one regret about Bruce (so far!) is that I allowed the wife to have him 'done'.
Should have put my foot down, but as per the norm, woman gets her own way...
Just curious because I've had 11 dogs and all but one have been neutered.
moorx said:
TheLordJohn said:
My one regret about Bruce (so far!) is that I allowed the wife to have him 'done'.
Should have put my foot down, but as per the norm, woman gets her own way...
Just curious because I've had 11 dogs and all but one have been neutered.
castex said:
Would you like it?
I can't speak as a male.... because I'm not one. But actually, I would have had myself 'neutered' years ago if my doctor had agreed I should add, all my female dogs have been neutered too.
Just my opinion, but if you're not planning to breed from your dog, I don't understand why you would have a problem with neutering them.
moorx said:
Just my opinion, but if you're not planning to breed from your dog, I don't understand why you would have a problem with neutering them.
Well that's the main reason. And the other reason is because his behaviour didn't warrant it. He didn't hump things, he wasn't aggressive etc.As long as you are aware of certain increase risks of medical conditions related to being entire and are prepared to deal with that then fair enough.
Personally whilst I don't think that 6 month neutering for males is often warranted and you definitely don't want to castrate young fearful dogs once they are mature I don't see anything gained by being entire and more to gain for their health.
It also takes away the worry of coming across entire females (that owners walk whilst in heat!! and yes they should neuter as well) when on a walk.
There are always pro's and cons with elective surgery but as long as you know both sides of the coin, you can make proper informed decisions and be prepared for any potential negatives.
For some dogs though it makes a huge positive difference to have them neutered.
Personally whilst I don't think that 6 month neutering for males is often warranted and you definitely don't want to castrate young fearful dogs once they are mature I don't see anything gained by being entire and more to gain for their health.
It also takes away the worry of coming across entire females (that owners walk whilst in heat!! and yes they should neuter as well) when on a walk.
There are always pro's and cons with elective surgery but as long as you know both sides of the coin, you can make proper informed decisions and be prepared for any potential negatives.
For some dogs though it makes a huge positive difference to have them neutered.
Edited by bexVN on Friday 3rd July 22:34
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