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Agree with above, I recently experienced similar brake failure so overhauled my brakes. Basically if I were you I would drill out all the holes in the discs to clear them out, change fluid to a quality high temp fluid, I used ATE racing blue, then change the pads. I find the Yellow stuff pads fantastic, low dust, OEM initial bite, fairly quick to warm then incredible braking performance when hot. No squeal and no fade. Confidence reinstalled. (Please note any bad reference to Yellow stuff comes from compound they used before 2010. They are now completely different and really good).
I can't see how you would need more braking performance that this for your intended use.
I can't see how you would need more braking performance that this for your intended use.
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But still feel wooden and require the driver to "stamp" on them which is a phrase often used and accepted for sine strange reason. There are threads and threads on wooden 996 brakes, second only to carrera engine failures.Not only that for the same price he was quoted, the six pots look 100x better and fit behind standard wheels.
edh said:
I wouldn't buy Pagid from ECP btw....have heard some interesting things about their sourcing..
Happy with Sebro discs though & agree with Textar pads as a good option. I presume the RPM quote was all Porsche parts?
You'll be amazed how good the braking is when it's working properly.
Visit TMD friction website to see who owns Pagid brand.. That'll dispell your fears about the quality. ECP also stock Sebro discs anyway Happy with Sebro discs though & agree with Textar pads as a good option. I presume the RPM quote was all Porsche parts?
You'll be amazed how good the braking is when it's working properly.
The Textar branded product is made on the same production lines as Pagid too.
ECP involvement is purely prime importer of Pagid non racing friction materials and purchase direct from TMD.
OP, google 996 wooden brakes, check threads on 911uk, 6speedonline, renntech and every other site. This subject comes up very often with new owners like yourself, me included. I was horrified when I came to a roundabout for the first time, I had zero confidence in those brakes.
Here's a good one on our very own PH, much the same way this one is going.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing//topic.asp?h=0&...
Don't listen to the modulation, racecar rubbish that is regurgitated all over the web. Fact is, Porsche upgraded the brakes to 6 pots and haven't looked back since. The 996t brakes are inadequate for the job, an overhaul will improve them but it wont be long before they will be back to wooden, like most others out there. Porsche OEM 6 pots will not devalue your car in any way so need to worry there either, they were standard on the GT3, GT2 996 for good reason and for the price quoted to overhaul your current setup, you can afford to get some and you will never look back! I shudder when I think back to my first high speed outing, it was a scary moment indeed, wooden, no feel, poor, no confidence and hugely disappointed in the standard brakes.
Here's a good one on our very own PH, much the same way this one is going.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing//topic.asp?h=0&...
Don't listen to the modulation, racecar rubbish that is regurgitated all over the web. Fact is, Porsche upgraded the brakes to 6 pots and haven't looked back since. The 996t brakes are inadequate for the job, an overhaul will improve them but it wont be long before they will be back to wooden, like most others out there. Porsche OEM 6 pots will not devalue your car in any way so need to worry there either, they were standard on the GT3, GT2 996 for good reason and for the price quoted to overhaul your current setup, you can afford to get some and you will never look back! I shudder when I think back to my first high speed outing, it was a scary moment indeed, wooden, no feel, poor, no confidence and hugely disappointed in the standard brakes.
e8_pack said:
But still feel wooden and require the driver to "stamp" on them which is a phrase often used and accepted for sine strange reason. There are threads and threads on wooden 996 brakes, second only to carrera engine failures.
Not only that for the same price he was quoted, the six pots look 100x better and fit behind standard wheels.
Porsche don't sell cars with inadequate brakes, but a neglected or underused car may well have poor braking performance. My Boxster definitely had "wooden" brakes when I bought it, matching your description - they are excellent now..Not only that for the same price he was quoted, the six pots look 100x better and fit behind standard wheels.
Did I change the calipers? No, but I did clean the corrosion from the discs, and replaced the worn dampers. A quick "tune up" at Silverstone & the brakes were very strong and full of feel..
e8_pack said:
But still feel wooden and require the driver to "stamp" on them which is a phrase often used and accepted for sine strange reason. There are threads and threads on wooden 996 brakes, second only to carrera engine failures.
Not only that for the same price he was quoted, the six pots look 100x better and fit behind standard wheels.
Can you clarify exactly what you did with the rears? I have 6 pots ready to go on the front which I believe need 997T discs & Pads, the rears I was going to leave as is.Not only that for the same price he was quoted, the six pots look 100x better and fit behind standard wheels.
e8_pack said:
edh said:
Porsche don't sell cars with inadequate brakes...
Of course not petal, they're "racing style" for improved feel and modulation.. Despite not fitting them to any GT model of the same era..To be fair I remember seeing the best of motoring review where they pitted a 996T against a 360 Modena, the pork absolutely annihilated it on braking performance and they remarked on how well they worked. clearly a refresh is required on cars of this age but I can't help but think they added 6 pots to the 997T for a reason
When I got my 993 on 110k miles or so, the brake pedal was rock hard and not very pleasant. I had all the calipers refurbished and painted a nice red instead of black, some new brake lines in places, new brake fluid and now the centre pedal is lovely (probably because of the red colour :P) - firm but feels great. The pads are standard OEM level items and will do fine on track. Once hot the pedal goes a bit softer and longer, but braking power is fine and they only went off after about 8 hard laps of Bedford SEN with an instructor egging me on which I thought was pretty good for a road car. Not ever managed to cook the 6 pot steels on my 7GT3 yet though, must try harder!
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