Wine delivery

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Ruttager

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2,079 posts

191 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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Wine is getting picked up tomorrow now as they now tell me they can't do Saturday pick-ups (Not that I would have been told this had I not got in touch with them again). Should be the end of the matter if the courier turns up....


Its Yodel....

otolith

55,899 posts

203 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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For all the time they've wasted fannying about and the cost of the courier, they should probably have just told you to keep it.

silentbrown

8,793 posts

115 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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Ruttager said:
Its Yodel....
It'll be a soggy box full of broken glass by the time it gets back. Make sure you get a receipt from the driver!

majordad

3,600 posts

196 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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Hope they don't collect it !

Du1point8

21,604 posts

191 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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silentbrown said:
Ruttager said:
Its Yodel....
It'll be a soggy box full of broken glass by the time it gets back. Make sure you get a receipt from the driver!
This... a thousand times this... do not let them leave without signing that the box was complete and nothing was broken.

GC8

19,910 posts

189 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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Breadvan72 said:
Impasse said:
Breadvan72 said:
ofcorsa said:
I always thought Bailment was by prior agreement?
It often is, but you can become an involuntary bailee.

Edited by Breadvan72 on Tuesday 30th June 08:44
Surely if the wine is left for collection in a similar manner to which it was delivered (abandoned on the doorstep) then the wine company has no real cause for complaint?
Not so on the facts of this case. The OP took the wine in, and has taken on a duty of care. Also, if the consignor leaves goods on step and they are pinched, it is the consignor's problem. If OP leaves goods on step and they are pinched, it's his problem.
So the OP became the involuntary bailee when he discovered the wine, and would not have become responsible at all had he remained in ignorance?

V8LM

5,166 posts

208 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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If it's a crate of Huguenot then they've already written it off. The last box I bought was delivered late to the wrong address, the box before that delivered to the University, a place of 50,000 people, and left with someone called Andy.

anonymous-user

53 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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To answer the question two posts above, knowledge is not the key issue here. Taking the wine inside involved accepting a duty to look after it.

silentbrown

8,793 posts

115 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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Breadvan72 said:
To answer the question two posts above, knowledge is not the key issue here. Taking the wine inside involved accepting a duty to look after it.
I'm curious why this wouldn't be considered as unsolicited goods? And it feels odd that the *voluntary* action of taking the wine in turns the OP into an *involuntary* bailee...

anonymous-user

53 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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He is involuntary as he did not agree with the bailor to take the goods. The goods were delivered in error and so do mot fall within the unsolicited goods regime.

GC8

19,910 posts

189 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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Breadvan72 said:
To answer the question two posts above, knowledge is not the key issue here. Taking the wine inside involved accepting a duty to look after it.
I'm a little confused now. He only took it inside after he became discovered it in his herbaceous border. I asked whether he would have become the bailee had he not discovered the wine hidden in his garden. I presume not?

anonymous-user

53 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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If the goods are left on the OP's land, he could, strictly speaking, be an involuntary bailee of the goods, but if he was unaware they were there it might be hard to prove that he failed to take reasonable care of them. Knowledge is not a pre requisite for involuntary bailment.

Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 3rd July 14:24

GC8

19,910 posts

189 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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Thank you.

mikeveal

4,557 posts

249 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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Breadvan72 said:
If the goods are left on the OP's land, he could, strictly speaking, be an involuntary bailee of the goods, but if he was unaware they were there it might be hard to prove that he failed to take reasonable care of them. Knowledge is not a pre requisite for involuntary bailment.

Edited by Breadvan72 on Friday 3rd July 14:24
Don't get me wrong BV, I'm glad to see you back. But I do miss the wibble that quickly filled the void you left. SPL was gaining entertainment value even to us laymen. And you just waltz back fill it with sensibly educational answers.
ZZZZZZZzzzzz.

anonymous-user

53 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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Sozzer.

jbsportstech

5,069 posts

178 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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stuart313 said:
Some idiot shoved one of those Betterware catalogues through my door once and then came and asked for it back a few days later. He reckoned I owed him a quid because it went in the bin. What a wker.
Yes what a wker imagine getting of your bum and trying to earn a living.

If you dont want the catalogues just get a sticker for your door saying no doorstep sellers. Then folk will know you dont want it.They cost the distributor money.

singlecoil

33,311 posts

245 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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jbsportstech said:
stuart313 said:
Some idiot shoved one of those Betterware catalogues through my door once and then came and asked for it back a few days later. He reckoned I owed him a quid because it went in the bin. What a wker.
Yes what a wker imagine getting of your bum and trying to earn a living.

If you dont want the catalogues just get a sticker for your door saying no doorstep sellers. Then folk will know you dont want it.They cost the distributor money.
My sympathies are with the people who receive these catalogues etc without asking for them. People at home should be left alone, if they want to buy anything they can do so in several ways that don't involve doorstep sellers.

Ruttager

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2,079 posts

191 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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No sign of Yodel. Wine still in my possession.

Suprised. No.

I'll wait and see if they contact me again. I've tried but I'm not wasting time chasing them anymore. If they contact me and arrange another pickup I'll do as I did today and leave the wine somewhere safe.

GC8

19,910 posts

189 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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I believe that I would write and start billing them for storage. This will either bring the matter to a swift conclusion, or it will be the end of it.

CoolHands

18,496 posts

194 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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if you had any sense you'd stop communicating with them, end of story.