The Ashes 2015

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johnfm

13,668 posts

250 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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el stovey said:
Einion Yrth said:
johnfm's gone very quiet.
Isn't he at the test?
I posted not long before this post?

In any event, a good day's cricket for England.

Australia batted like they did in Cardiff. Not discipline at all. Clarke and Voges got great deliveries. Smith, Marsh, Warner and Johnson threw their wickets away. Neville showing them how test match batting works - you stay in when bowing side has their tail up.

Take nothing away from Finn. As I said before he bowled really well. He was gifted some wickets but he earned them with pressure.

Wicket has had not much to do with it really- there's just been a lack of grit, batsmen thinks every innings is a one day game.

England deservedly 2-1 with 2 to go.

zygalski

7,759 posts

145 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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Warne was talking about players with poor performances being dropped from the Aussie squad, regardless of who they are. Hussain (I think) asked "what about your good friend Michael Clarke?". All of a sudden Warne started umm-ing & ahh-ing & changed the subject. That was yesterday's highlight.
laugh

johnfm

13,668 posts

250 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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zygalski said:
Warne was talking about players with poor performances being dropped from the Aussie squad, regardless of who they are. Hussain (I think) asked "what about your good friend Michael Clarke?". All of a sudden Warne started umm-ing & ahh-ing & changed the subject. That was yesterday's highlight.
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Not sure they will drop anybody (though Clarke is actually in a prolonged period of poor form) - the players are more than capable if they knuckle down and do their jobs. Not hard to bowl in the right areas. Aust bowlers didn't do what they practice every day of the year. Batsmen played very poor shots (other than Clarke and Voges). Both sides are surprisingly inconsistent from game to game.

johnfm

13,668 posts

250 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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DJRC said:
spikey...we should have sorted ourselves out to bloody go!!! Tomorrow won't be worth it frown

So...Trent or the Oval? Its Hospitality only unless you want to risk a 5th day ticket - no chance!

£390 for Trent or £414 for the Oval... Anyone up for joining me?
You'll get a single ticket from a tout. There were loads available yesterday. Only struggle might be getting 2 next to eachother.

zygalski

7,759 posts

145 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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johnfm said:
zygalski said:
Warne was talking about players with poor performances being dropped from the Aussie squad, regardless of who they are. Hussain (I think) asked "what about your good friend Michael Clarke?". All of a sudden Warne started umm-ing & ahh-ing & changed the subject. That was yesterday's highlight.
laugh
Not sure they will drop anybody (though Clarke is actually in a prolonged period of poor form) - the players are more than capable if they knuckle down and do their jobs. Not hard to bowl in the right areas. Aust bowlers didn't do what they practice every day of the year. Batsmen played very poor shots (other than Clarke and Voges). Both sides are surprisingly inconsistent from game to game.
I think you have a point. Looking at their squad, they could only really drop Clarke & Voges for Watson, Haddin or lesser Marsh.

johnfm

13,668 posts

250 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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zygalski said:
I think you have a point. Looking at their squad, they could only really drop Clarke & Voges for Watson, Haddin or lesser Marsh.
I don't I'd drop Voges. He clearly can make runs - just hasn't done so here yet. His time will come and if not, he will be dropped. But I expect selectors will stick with him for at least this series and the next.

Clarke will retire if he doesn't make a score this series i expect.

Watson - can't see him playing test cricket again. Not done enough with bat or ball when needed, and there are no points for having 'potential' when you've had years to try to convert potential into big scores.

Australia just need to show a bit more respect for the conditions - Smith and Johnson trying to play a pull shot without even looking at what sort of bounce Finn might extract was simply careless. There is merit in trying to dominate a bowler or stopping them dictating the game - but you don't do it from their first ball.

The game is about doing the basics well and then adding to that. Get the basics wrong (with bat or ball) and you lose.

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

244 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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Anderson out for Trent Bridge. That's a boost for the crims. Bugger!

johnfm

13,668 posts

250 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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Einion Yrth said:
Anderson out for Trent Bridge. That's a boost for the crims. Bugger!
I thought he would. I saw him pull up after the ball to Johnson. Said to my cousin Anderson is hurt. Side strain can be a real problem - can take weeks to get back to normal - though probably quicker with all the treatment availabel to a pro.

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

244 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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johnfm said:
Side strain can be a real problem
Indeed, probably questions about the Oval too. frown

Gargamel

14,988 posts

261 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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Righto one last heave....COME ON ENGLAND

TheAngryDog

12,406 posts

209 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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DJRC said:
steveT350C said:
DJRC said:
spikey...we should have sorted ourselves out to bloody go!!! Tomorrow won't be worth it frown

So...Trent or the Oval? Its Hospitality only unless you want to risk a 5th day ticket - no chance!

£390 for Trent or £414 for the Oval... Anyone up for joining me?
I'm up the Oval...... although Talisker Storm is making it difficult for me to ffind out dates. Feel free to pm smile)

Edited by steveT350C on Thursday 30th July 20:52
The Saturday. I'm probably gainfully employed by then over in Holland so not possible for thurs or fri.
Anyone else?
Rage - Working else i'd have been up for it.



So, should Nevill have walked?

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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TheAngryDog said:
So, should Nevill have walked?
No.

Gargamel

14,988 posts

261 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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desolate said:
No.
Agreed, no one should have to walk, that is what umpires are for. Would settle all the arguments.

Not too worried, new ball due on a few overs, spread the field, keep the score down, then attack with the new ball.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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At what point do we worry about their score, 100+?

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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We got bowled out for 103 last week.


The rational part of me reckons we could chase 280.

But the long term English cricket supporter is already thinking this is Australia's version of 1981.

FourWheelDrift

88,516 posts

284 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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anonymous said:
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I'm worrying now.

FourWheelDrift

88,516 posts

284 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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Why the hell did he review that! We could hear it, like we could hear the glove earlier on the microphones.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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FourWheelDrift said:
I'm worrying now.
Me too.

Anything over 60.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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el stovey said:
FourWheelDrift said:
I'm worrying now.
Me too.

Anything over 60.
hehe

Glad I am not alone

TheAngryDog

12,406 posts

209 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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FourWheelDrift said:
Why the hell did he review that! We could hear it, like we could hear the glove earlier on the microphones.
Hopeful thinking?

el stovey said:
FourWheelDrift said:
I'm worrying now.
Me too.

Anything over 60.
It's already over 70 hehe