Painting after a plaster skim

Painting after a plaster skim

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KaraK

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13,183 posts

209 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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Can't seem to find a consistent answer to this one on the wider internet so thought I'd run it by the PH experts... I'm having the walls in my home office re-skimmed over the next couple of days (should mainly be a skim but there are a couple of deeper holes under the windowsill that will need some more substantial attention and I'm wondering how long to leave it before painting? Everyone seems pretty much in agreement that doing a mist coat first is a good idea (although the ratio of water to paint seems to take on almost holy significance between the different camps) and I've got buckets of plain white emulsion which, assuming it's vinyl-free should be good to go for that. Am I mad to think I could look at doing that not this weekend but the weekend after? If it's better to wait longer then I can do that I'd just need to re-adjust some of my other plans smile

Muncher

12,219 posts

249 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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The weekend after will be absolutely fine, the plaster will be dry long before then, especially with the current weather.

V8RX7

26,838 posts

263 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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My house is being skimmed at the minute - it's dry within 24hrs !


mm23

86 posts

144 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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Looking at the current weather, the time frame you refer to will be fine. The matt paint is usually diluted 50/50 for a mist coat.

HTH

Pheo

3,334 posts

202 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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Needs to have gone consistently pink. Mist coat it first.

Jasandjules

69,883 posts

229 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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As above, once it is mainly pink then it is good to paint (took about 48 hours for my lounge this week) and 50/50 paint/water for the first coat (though you can buy "plaster paint").

Neil - YVM

1,310 posts

199 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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This time of year skim will dry very quickly.

Any non vinyl emulsion will do, and yes a 50/50 mix is ideal using basic emulsion.

If anyone suggests using PVA kick them repeatedly in the nuts!

AlmostUseful

3,282 posts

200 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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I did a skim on ours the other day and plan to seal it tonight, once I've used the sealant do I need a mist coat or should I just go at it? It's B&Q Dial exterior stabilising primer, but has been used extensively inside too where we had bare plaster.

Spudler

3,985 posts

196 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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AlmostUseful said:
I did a skim on ours the other day and plan to seal it tonight, once I've used the sealant do I need a mist coat or should I just go at it? It's B&Q Dial exterior stabilising primer, but has been used extensively inside too where we had bare plaster.
Why do you need to seal the plaster?
Plaster needs to absorb the emulsion.

rb5er

11,657 posts

172 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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It doesn't need a "sealant".

Just a 50/50 mislst coat as mentioned earlier.

AlmostUseful

3,282 posts

200 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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Sorry, primer rather than sealant, I used Wickes multi finish finishing plaster and it says to use a primer for best results.

GG89

3,527 posts

186 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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AlmostUseful said:
Sorry, primer rather than sealant, I used Wickes multi finish finishing plaster and it says to use a primer for best results.
Use a plasterer for best results wink

It's just a ploy to get you to buy more of their gear.

Woody3

748 posts

204 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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This is good stuff, if you can't be doing with the 50/50 mix. Covers really well and usually one coat is enough!

http://www.screwfix.com/p/no-nonsense-trade-bare-p...

AlmostUseful

3,282 posts

200 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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I'd love to be paying people, but the budget just isn't there. Only labour costs so far are spark and gas man, done/doing everything else myself.

On the plus side, I didn't pay for the primer either. smile

B17NNS

18,506 posts

247 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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I'm plastering all week. What I skimmed yesterday was bone dry today (light pink).

A few walls were bonded then skimmed last Friday. Dry also.

Basically it as someone above said, when it's a uniform light colour it's ready for paint.

I've always advocated a mist coat but having recently tried this I no longer bother.

http://www.screwfix.com/p/no-nonsense-trade-bare-p...

Cheap as chips, two coats and you're done.

B17NNS

18,506 posts

247 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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AlmostUseful said:
Sorry, primer rather than sealant, I used Wickes multi finish finishing plaster and it says to use a primer for best results.
If you're referring to Multifinish (orange bag), the primer comment will refer to the prep prior to plastering to provide a key or control suction (or both). Don't use PVA prior to painting.

AlmostUseful

3,282 posts

200 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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B17NNS said:
If you're referring to Multifinish (orange bag), the primer comment will refer to the prep prior to plastering to provide a key or control suction (or both). Don't use PVA prior to painting.
Just had a look at the bag again, definitely refers to pre painting after the plaster is fully dried. Will prime it and see what happens... It's only a few sq metres, can be sanded off easily enough if required. I've used primer rather than a pva mix, assuming the primer isn't just expensively bottled pva and water!!

Spudler

3,985 posts

196 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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AlmostUseful said:
Will prime it and see what happens... It's only a few sq metres, can be sanded off easily enough if required.
So, not really worth asking in the first place.

AlmostUseful

3,282 posts

200 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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I disagree. If I'd been told no, you don't need to prime it then fair enough, but I was told I'd misinterpretted instructions which I clearly hadn't and not to use pva which I never intended to use anyway.
Happy to accept advice when it's well informed, but in my opinion the above wasn't.


I'll run with what the packet says on that basis.

sleepezy

1,800 posts

234 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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Without wishing to confuse the matter more than necessary just watch your dilution rates on the mist - I am closer to 33:67 / 25:75 (ie nearer 25% paint, 75% water) in this weather and with the (thick, trade) emulsion that I am using.

It should be thin enough that you can still see the plaster underneath - at 50:50 it was going on too thickly for me.