RE: Subaru BRZ ts launched (in Japan)
Discussion
glasgowrob said:
GravelMachineGun said:
I hate to be the first to mention it (If I am) but I just couldn't buy something that looks fast and then I'd get done by a chav in his Corsa VXR.
Don't worry about hot hatchesThe diesel repmobiles would have you in a straight line
Amazing cars but as above crying out for another 80-100 hp
loose cannon said:
What if you can't keep up on any twistys either ? That leaves you with drifting around roundabouts
Why do you have to "keep up" with anything? It's possible to enjoy a drive without competing with anyone else.Edited by Conscript on Wednesday 1st July 20:02
0000 said:
s m said:
Actually tested 2 seconds faster to 100mph (18.8 ) than the 320d saloon or 220d coupe (20.9 )
That's as per the Autocar timed tests using proper timing gear
Damned by faint praise. That's as per the Autocar timed tests using proper timing gear
I like them but I wish the back seats were a bit roomier - my lads were too cramped to make it a go'er for me
loose cannon said:
What if you can't keep up on any twistys either ? That leaves you with drifting around roundabouts
Look mate, i don't know if you are stupid/troll or both, but i write this down very slowly so you have a lot of time to read my text.Most cars (even performance oriented) can't keep up with twins in the twisties. Turn in is so rapid, they are so stable in fast corners and they have so good suspension for real roads that other cars just struggle to keep the pace. Not this car tho (or similar kind of machine). Driver inputs are instant and everything happen so fast in this car if you want to. Proper drivers car.
Our diesel 3-series beemer is a fat pig in comparison. For example, my gf was driving test drive gt86 in front of me. After traffic light there was a very very tight turn to left, and she was wayyyy faster than i was. This car is not an impressive car on paper but in real life it is.
I'm quite sure that most of people who bashes this thing haven't driven it.
LasseV said:
I'm quite sure that most of people who bashes this thing haven't driven it.
I lived with one for a fortnight (GT86 rather than BRZ), my overall opinion? Cheap feeling and under powered I'm not saying I didn't enjoy or rate it, it just felt like it could have been done better with little effort.
Opinions are like arse holes, every one has got one
spameister said:
This is done with a 132 rwkw BRZ and an average driver (that would be me). Yep, way too slow.
Proves absolutely nothing, just look at the difference between the two Golf R's 
Edited by Tuvra on Thursday 2nd July 09:41
I really don't get why people are worried about how quick other cars are in relation to theirs. Is it a dick measuring exercise?? Does it really matter if someone's diesel Mondeo is as quick as a GT86?
The sad thing is many people write this car off based on 0-60 time. I'd hazard a guess many of these people haven't driven one, or the ones that have, have only had a short test drive. If they spent time with one on a good road they might forget about 0-60 times and enjoy the things that really matter. At the end of the day, is it speed that is enjoyable, or is it the sensation of speed?
The sad thing is many people write this car off based on 0-60 time. I'd hazard a guess many of these people haven't driven one, or the ones that have, have only had a short test drive. If they spent time with one on a good road they might forget about 0-60 times and enjoy the things that really matter. At the end of the day, is it speed that is enjoyable, or is it the sensation of speed?
What it needs is a big NA engine that revs like the clappers. Think a useful straight six like the E46 M3 engine. That'd preserve the driving purity, and give it the pace the pundits cry out for. It would also massively increase the price, assuming anything like that could be made to pass modern emissions tests. I doubt it could.
Baryonyx said:
What it needs is a big NA engine that revs like the clappers. Think a useful straight six like the E46 M3 engine. That'd preserve the driving purity, and give it the pace the pundits cry out for. It would also massively increase the price, assuming anything like that could be made to pass modern emissions tests. I doubt it could.
I expect it would also have a significant effect on the weight (total and distribution) and centre of mass, so it wouldn't handle the same either.Edited by GravelBen on Friday 3rd July 03:07
LordGrover said:
Oh good. This topic has descended to the same level as every other gt86 brz topic.
PH never lets me down.
PH never lets me down.
Most of the descending was done by the second post of the thread tbh.
I must have been on PH too long, I catch myself shaking my head at some of the drivel being posted and reminiscing about the good old days. It might have been me posting ignorant drivel back then though.
Edited by GravelBen on Friday 3rd July 06:45
Poopipe said:
The issue is that there is no reason on earth why it shouldn't have 50% more power.
There is a selection of aftermarket turbo and s/c kit available to take the power up to 280 bhp-ish.So if you really feel the need to, you can have 50% (ish) more power for about 4-5k.
I really don't see a problem. I know that in UK tuning has a bit of a social stigma and yes you have to read the fine print when it comes to warranty but these kits are from companies who know what they are doing and have been on the market for a while. We're not talking Halford's DIY kit here.
I do agree it would be nice if Toyota or Subaru offered a turbo version in the showroom but tbh tuning is part of Japanese culture and I think with GT86/BRZ we should just go with it.
I for one am actually glad that a company offers a relatively cheap vanilla car that you can customize to your heart's content. Kind of like your own Millennium Falcon.
Edited by Bladedancer on Friday 3rd July 08:31
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