funding a used aston- how do fund yours?

funding a used aston- how do fund yours?

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DAVIDOXE

494 posts

114 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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Was reliably informed at the dealer that 9 out of 10 cars new and used cars are financed to varying degrees.
Surely if there wasnt anyone willing to finance then these vehicles would not be available to those fortunate to buy outright.


ds2000

2,689 posts

192 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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I financed my V12. £35k down the other on the drip. Planning and not wanting to pay silly amounts in tax were the reasons for me doing it. Car hasn't really lost any value at all. Fair play to the cash boys but for the rest of us finance is a viable options.

Did the same with my v8 and it wasn't as costly as you'd think.

hashluck

1,612 posts

275 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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UltraAston said:
With financing rates relatively low you'd be better off putting your money to work if your risk-adjusted return in an investment is greater than your cost of financing.
This.

But do the maths on the TOTAL cost of ownership. And it will be a cost. Most of the monthly cost will be the depreciation.

Jon39

12,826 posts

143 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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DAVIDOXE said:
Was reliably informed at the dealer that 9 out of 10 cars new and used cars are financed to varying degrees.
Surely if there wasnt anyone willing to finance then these vehicles would not be available to those fortunate to buy outright.
Yes, and a big thank you to the purchasers of new Aston Martins, who keep the factory going and also provide the stock of three year old bargains.



hashluck

1,612 posts

275 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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Jon39 said:
Yes, and a big thank you to the purchasers of new Aston Martins, who keep the factory going and also provide the stock of three year old bargains.
My pleasure smile

plus it means a car will be available that does not have a black interior (or exterior for that matter smile

Seriously though, I have friends and acquaintances who could purchase cars outright but choose to finance them because they feel they can make their own money work harder than the finance rate being charged.

xnetco

172 posts

112 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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I think it also depends where you get the money from.

If you win the lottery than pay for it outright.

However if run your own business and it pushes you into another tax band then it might be cheaper to pay the interest.

Jon39

12,826 posts

143 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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hashluck said:
Seriously though, I have friends and acquaintances who could purchase cars outright but choose to finance them because they feel they can make their own money work harder than the finance rate being charged.

A concept that can work very well.

However, I am sure that you have intelligent friends, who will know that gearing difficulties can occasionally arise. It usually follows unexpected events (health, employment, markets, business etc.).


ds2000

2,689 posts

192 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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xnetco said:
I think it also depends where you get the money from.

If you win the lottery than pay for it outright.

However if run your own business and it pushes you into another tax band then it might be cheaper to pay the interest.
This smile

F1 NDW

1,116 posts

146 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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Neil1300r said:
You are lying on your deathbed discussing your finaces with your children. "I've finally got enough cash to buy the Aston I've always dreamed of...."

Interest rates are increadibly low, various finance options avialble.
ha ha, its on my death bed that my daughters get an Aston!

Jon39

12,826 posts

143 months

Monday 6th July 2015
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F1 NDW said:
ha ha, its on my death bed that my daughters get an Aston!

That is kind of you.
Some are just sold, to raise money for inheritance tax.

Have you taken your daughters to Newport Pagnall for a visit, as preparation? - smile



SlartiF430

1,828 posts

154 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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66MK said:
For me, I waited at least 20 years whilst I saved up the money to buy my Aston. I walked into the dealer having done my research (everyday, for all of those 20 years!) and I bought exactly the model and year and spec that I wanted. Only two had come up for sale that year and I bought the second one. It is mine. Having paid for it out right I have an Aston Martin in the drive that I can afford and for me, that was the target.

Anyone can leverage and get the money to buy one, 'afford' for me doesn't mean being able to service a debt.

Wait, buy it cash and you will deserve it. Borrow and if you are honest with yourself, you just won't quite feel the same.

Having said that, if time is not on your side, sell everything you have except the garage, borrow as much as you can get and buy one - they are stratospherically.....list of superlatives.... amazing!

biglaugh

PS have a spare 10K available for misc. costs....BR exhaust, full detail, carbon bits and bobs, etc etc etc! smile

Edited by 66MK on Sunday 5th July 02:16
This to my mind is taking being sensible to the extreme. I'd never do this, I wouldn't have the patience. If I wanted something so desperately that I'd save for 20yrs, I'd just take the hit on the finance and get it today. Life is finite, and 20 yrs is a massive chunk of that to be spent missing out!

davek_964

8,816 posts

175 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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SlartiF430 said:
66MK said:
For me, I waited at least 20 years whilst I saved up the money to buy my Aston. I walked into the dealer having done my research (everyday, for all of those 20 years!) and I bought exactly the model and year and spec that I wanted. Only two had come up for sale that year and I bought the second one. It is mine. Having paid for it out right I have an Aston Martin in the drive that I can afford and for me, that was the target.

Anyone can leverage and get the money to buy one, 'afford' for me doesn't mean being able to service a debt.

Wait, buy it cash and you will deserve it. Borrow and if you are honest with yourself, you just won't quite feel the same.

Having said that, if time is not on your side, sell everything you have except the garage, borrow as much as you can get and buy one - they are stratospherically.....list of superlatives.... amazing!

biglaugh

PS have a spare 10K available for misc. costs....BR exhaust, full detail, carbon bits and bobs, etc etc etc! smile

Edited by 66MK on Sunday 5th July 02:16
This to my mind is taking being sensible to the extreme. I'd never do this, I wouldn't have the patience. If I wanted something so desperately that I'd save for 20yrs, I'd just take the hit on the finance and get it today. Life is finite, and 20 yrs is a massive chunk of that to be spent missing out!
What you can "afford" is hugely subjective anyway, and is much more complicated than whether you can pay cash. Much as I love my 360, there are some cars I'd love to see in the garage instead of it - and if I chose I could pay for without a loan, especially if I sold the 360 first. However, my common sense streak is still quite convinced I can't "afford" them!
As for blowing the savings + getting a loan.... ooooh, that would let me look at some nice cars...... I'm tempted myself now! wink

Ken Figenus

5,707 posts

117 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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A locked in 3.9% loan for the missing 15k needed for mine - no brainer! Never been a better time - SWYD...

Jon39

12,826 posts

143 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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SlartiF430 said:
This to my mind is taking being sensible to the extreme. I'd never do this, I wouldn't have the patience. If I wanted something so desperately that I'd save for 20yrs, I'd just take the hit on the finance and get it today. Life is finite, and 20 yrs is a massive chunk of that to be spent missing out!

An interesting situation in this instance, because the 20 years between 1995 and 2015 saw Aston Martin building very different cars. I have not even sat in the 1995 cars, but I suspect a current V8 Vantage provides a much more satisfying drive, than the earlier cars.

So, it is a 6 cylinder DB7 or a Newport Pagnell Virage on finance, or it is a V8 Vantage for cash.