Terraclean by Ed China

Terraclean by Ed China

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supermono

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7,368 posts

248 months

Friday 10th July 2015
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Somewhat interesting episode of Wheeler Dealer last night and that XK8 (the one with the stupid numberplate s10nby or something?)

Anyhow I see on PH we've talked about the terraclean system before but inconclusively as far as I can tell.

It seems Ed was really doing a bit of an advert supposedly HC figures were decimated by the process, I find it incredibly hard to believe it worked like that and probably it was cold at the beginning then warmed up and op temp at the end (HC dropped from like 500 to 50 or something)

Was thinking about taking my XJR over there, dyno on the way, emissions test at his garage before (when warmed up from the drive) and after, then dyno again on the way home.

Waste of time? Or is there a chance it'll have a positive effect?

I rev it up hard and often and rarely drive in traffic, usually >80 miles per trip, often 200+ so definitely not a victim of driving miss daisy.

stevesingo

4,854 posts

222 months

Friday 10th July 2015
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You would be providing as definitive answer to the question as possible if you did.

gowmonster

2,471 posts

167 months

Friday 10th July 2015
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I think the key is to get a boroscope done through the spark plug holes first and compare screenshots before and after to decide if its snake oil or not.

stevieturbo

17,256 posts

247 months

Friday 10th July 2015
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WD normally go to great lengths to hide any branding. Whether fluids they use, products, suppliers who fix things for them etc etc.

Yet they openly market snake oil.

As said before, you'd be better spending the money on a Greek lottery ticket

julian64

14,317 posts

254 months

Friday 10th July 2015
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the answer to your question is to google the terraclean website, its actually eds baby by the look of it

supermono

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7,368 posts

248 months

Friday 10th July 2015
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Interestingly the aerosols seemed to have black (satin black?) tape around them towards the bottom (or top whilst inverted), thought that was hiding branding.

But is Ed involved with the company? I see youtube vids of him interviewing a "happy customer"

gowmonster

2,471 posts

167 months

Friday 10th July 2015
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there's a video on you tube about sea foam which i guess is the same idea but a different method, In that the independent guy doing it did that boroscope thing.

I guess you'd really need to do some sort of dyno before and after and some sort of mpg comparison too as well as the boroscope thing.

gowmonster

2,471 posts

167 months

Friday 10th July 2015
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that guys tutorial on how it works isn't inspiring me with confidence.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 10th July 2015
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gowmonster said:
that guys tutorial on how it works isn't inspiring me with confidence.
'it's got nano'

Piersman2

6,597 posts

199 months

Friday 10th July 2015
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And yet....

I had an XJR which used to trigger the engine warning for inefficient cats every day or so, I used to just clear it with a code reader.

After about 18 months I eventually replaced the cats with some sports ones thinking this would solve it, it worked... for about a day.

Back to clearing the code every day or so.

I wanted to sell the car and not wanting to sell it on with any issues I had my local specialist put the car through a terraclean , cost about £90.

Sold the car three days later, with no sign of the light coming back on.

Not conclusive I know, but that was the longest it hadn't triggerd the engine light for 2 years.

What a fecking pain these messages are, apparently the newer EU emissions regulations mean the ECU checks things and triggers at much lower standards then before, even if there's not much actually wrong.




Impasse

15,099 posts

241 months

Friday 10th July 2015
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Is it wrong that I was very disappointed by the lack of plumes of smoke from the Jaguar while the process was going on? With all the supposed crap being cleared I was expecting/hoping to see an absolute fog engulfing the workshop.

ZX10R NIN

27,573 posts

125 months

Saturday 11th July 2015
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How did you find it? I saw the before & after using a bore scope, I have to say it was impressive.

supermono

Original Poster:

7,368 posts

248 months

Saturday 11th July 2015
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Impasse said:
Is it wrong that I was very disappointed by the lack of plumes of smoke from the Jaguar while the process was going on? With all the supposed crap being cleared I was expecting/hoping to see an absolute fog engulfing the workshop.
Definitely I thought exactly the same

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 12th July 2015
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Piersman2 said:
I had an XJR which used to trigger the engine warning for inefficient cats every day or so
Piersman2 said:
After about 18 months I eventually replaced the cats with some sports ones thinking this would solve it
er, why?


Your EMS flags up "inefficient" catalysts by measuring the oxygen storage capability of the catalysts. It does this by monitoring the post catalyst exhaust oxygen content verses the pre catalyst oxygen content, which is my modern cars have two sets of lambda sensors (pre and post cat)

I'd bet you £50 that to "fix" the issue, the garage just fitted some cheap(<£10) spacers to the rear sensor to move the tip of the rear lambda probe out of the exhaust stream and bingo, no MIL...........

ie:


supermono

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7,368 posts

248 months

Monday 13th July 2015
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Of course catalysts don't store oxygen they allow the oxygen present to react with unburned hydrocarbons as the gases pass through

Interesting spacers though.

supermono

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7,368 posts

248 months

Monday 13th July 2015
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ZX10R NIN said:
I saw the before & after using a bore scope, I have to say it was impressive.
Do you have anything substantial here to help us believe you're not Edd's mum?

AER

1,142 posts

270 months

Monday 13th July 2015
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Max_Torque said:
er, why?


Your EMS flags up "inefficient" catalysts by measuring the oxygen storage capability of the catalysts. It does this by monitoring the post catalyst exhaust oxygen content verses the pre catalyst oxygen content, which is my modern cars have two sets of lambda sensors (pre and post cat)

I'd bet you £50 that to "fix" the issue, the garage just fitted some cheap(<£10) spacers to the rear sensor to move the tip of the rear lambda probe out of the exhaust stream and bingo, no MIL...........

ie:

Wow, that's a cool cheat! Better than the electronic filtered upstream signal.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 13th July 2015
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supermono said:
Of course catalysts don't store oxygen
Sure about that??? ;-)

ZX10R NIN

27,573 posts

125 months

Monday 13th July 2015
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supermono said:
Do you have anything substantial here to help us believe you're not Edd's mum?
His Dad maybe but not his mum wink

We now use a different system in our workshop (cheaper to buy in) but it does the same job