Does it matter what your employer does?

Does it matter what your employer does?

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944fan

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4,962 posts

185 months

Thursday 16th July 2015
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I haven't been enjoying work for a while. Partly this is because I have a very small team and despite a GP over £4M per annum am constantly told I cannot have more staff.

The main reason I think though is that I could give the tiniest st about the end product of what my company does. I just think its crap and pointless. I wonder if I worked for somewhere that had a product or service that interested me would I enjoy it more? I work in IT and IT will always be IT but IT is generally there to support an end product.

When I first started my career I worked for a police force as a developer. Whilst the pay was poor I felt like my job was in someway achieving something.

Do you care what you employer does? Should I actively seek out companies who have a product that interests me?

toon10

6,183 posts

157 months

Thursday 16th July 2015
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Yes I care although it's not the reason why I chose to work here, more of a feel good bonus. I work for a safety and medical company and although I'm also in IT, the end product of what we do saves lives.

Sheepshanks

32,756 posts

119 months

Thursday 16th July 2015
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We had an electronics technician join from the NHS and he left 6 months to go back as he felt he wasn't doing a "worthy" job.

grumbledoak

31,532 posts

233 months

Thursday 16th July 2015
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Definitely. It can be mercenary rather than making the world a better place, but I like to feel I am doing something.

ecs

1,228 posts

170 months

Thursday 16th July 2015
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Yes; I've worked for people who did little more than talk about what they wanted to do, sell things I hate or were total fkers to be around. I didn't stay long in those jobs.

Cyberprog

2,190 posts

183 months

Thursday 16th July 2015
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I suppose I'm lucky in a way in my IT Role. I work for a Small to Medium sized Family run business as their IT & Communications Manager. Basically desktop support for around 70 PC's and 40 something staff, while simultaneously doing development for various internal process apps, writing reports for our ERP system. I also install and manage our phone systems, and physical networks. Oh and practically anything electrical is my responsibility also!

edc

9,235 posts

251 months

Thursday 16th July 2015
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The different facets of job satisfaction is always an interesting discussion. There are theoretical models galore out there. It might be worth looking at a couple and using the framework to help evaluate what is important to you in a job.

I have worked for a handful of companies and each has been in a different sector and industry providing product or services. The usefulness of the end product or service is of less importance, the users and consumers can be the judge of that, than a belief in the people, the organisation, the brand and quaility.

Sheepshanks

32,756 posts

119 months

Thursday 16th July 2015
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Cyberprog said:
I suppose I'm lucky in a way in my IT Role. I work for a Small to Medium sized Family run business as their IT & Communications Manager. Basically desktop support for around 70 PC's and 40 something staff, while simultaneously doing development for various internal process apps, writing reports for our ERP system. I also install and manage our phone systems, and physical networks. Oh and practically anything electrical is my responsibility also!
Great, but - what's the end product / output of this Small to Medium sized Family run business. Does it do anything worthwhile? That's the OPs question.

Art0ir

9,401 posts

170 months

Friday 17th July 2015
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IT bod here too. We build stuff. Really big stuff. I enjoy getting onsite and seeing what's happening.

Cyder

7,053 posts

220 months

Friday 17th July 2015
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Yep.

I like cars and there's not much more satisfying than seeing a car with parts you were responsible for developing driving on the public road, seems even more satisfying when abroad for some reason.

Hoofy

76,354 posts

282 months

Friday 17th July 2015
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Yes. I used to work in business publishing and even tod sleep

944fan

Original Poster:

4,962 posts

185 months

Friday 17th July 2015
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I think so. I am not sure I necessarily need to do something worthy, although that would be even better.

The problem with my current company is our clients think the world will end if their system stops working, whereas the vast majority of people wouldn't even notice. We actually had a site go down for over a week before anyone noticed. It just so pointless.

I think if the goal or end product of the company did something that I was interested in then that would help a lot. I like cars, sports (especially athletics, swimming), F1 (red bull's factory is 5 minutes form my house, but have been turned down by them in the past). I like science.

Anyone know of a sports company in Milton Keynes needing an IT Development Manager?

Bullett

10,886 posts

184 months

Friday 17th July 2015
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It's no big deal for me. I'm in IT/telecoms.
I've worked for a flower company, a credit card issuer, a telco, a systems integrator and currently a software vendor. I've work for end customer doing everything from government work(various) to banking and retail.
As long as the work is reasonably interesting and I feel like I'm achieving something I'm good.

That said I'd have to think twice about working for certain companies.

edc

9,235 posts

251 months

Friday 17th July 2015
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I notice that most of the posters here are involved quite directly in the development or delivery of a product or service. There don't appear to be too many posters who are working in other business functions ...

Miguel Alvarez

4,944 posts

170 months

Friday 17th July 2015
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This is me at the moment. My company provides a useful service but my personal link in the chain seems so unimportant lately it feels a real drag to bring myself in each morning.

I keep thinking about some of my happiest jobs and for some reason I always seem to think of customer service roles. The only problem is for the most part the pay cut would be quite severe.

PurpleTurtle

6,987 posts

144 months

Friday 17th July 2015
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I work in IT for premium motor manufacturer. Configuring/ordering the cars from factory systems, then handling the distribution of them to dealers in the UK in conjunction with third party delivery partners is my bread and butter. Dull as IT can be, the subject matter keeps me interested as a PH'er.

I had a mate with this conundrum, worked in technical pre-sales for a blue chip co. He thought he was not doing 'good' during his time on earth, so his 'life coach' rolleyes encouraged him to give that up and apply his skills in the NHS, doing some management non-job to do with coronary care on 60% of the money but, as it later transpired, twice the workload and stress. Funnily enough he gave it up after two years and went back to what he used to do. Grass/greener.

944fan

Original Poster:

4,962 posts

185 months

Friday 17th July 2015
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PurpleTurtle said:
Grass/greener.
Indeed. The grass maybe greener but there are cow pats in every field.

Jasandjules

69,888 posts

229 months

Friday 17th July 2015
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Well, I am self employed. But I get job satisfaction out of what I do (most of the time).. That is the important part to me, actually enjoying what you do.

ChasW

2,135 posts

202 months

Friday 17th July 2015
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People seem to care more about this these days. I worked for a couple of health care companies earlier in my career. At times I did appreciate the fact that what we were doing was of benefit to people particularly when we introduced new products that helped improve treatments. I did not have the same sense of well-being when working other sectors.

Cyberprog

2,190 posts

183 months

Sunday 19th July 2015
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Sheepshanks said:
Cyberprog said:
I suppose I'm lucky in a way in my IT Role. I work for a Small to Medium sized Family run business as their IT & Communications Manager. Basically desktop support for around 70 PC's and 40 something staff, while simultaneously doing development for various internal process apps, writing reports for our ERP system. I also install and manage our phone systems, and physical networks. Oh and practically anything electrical is my responsibility also!
Great, but - what's the end product / output of this Small to Medium sized Family run business. Does it do anything worthwhile? That's the OPs question.
Heating Spares - so I'd like to think it's worthwhile. We certainly move mountains when needed to find bits to keep little old dears warm in the winter and specialise in obsolete bits.