Jeremy Corbyn

[Sway]

You're having a laffa...

[iphonedyou]

Sway said:

You're having a laffa...

[KingNothing]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3220782/Co...

[Pesty]

[turbobloke]

KingNothing said:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3220782/Co...

"66-year-old love child of a Marx, Lenin, Trotsky threesome"



Surely there's one too many Y chromosome in there, they need a Nadezhada Krupskaya or an Alexandra Kollantai.

Even so

[0000]

I'm almost ready for another general election the way this is going.

[Jasandjules]

hidetheelephants said:

It's no wonder the blairites and brownhatters are stting buttons and the media becoming even more febrile than usual; they can't come out with a straight answer to anything, therefore anyone who does(however misguided) is a fundamental threat.

Indeed.

And what makes it worse is that I don't fundamentally disagree with most of what he said either (one or two exceptions).

[carinaman]

Good job I've spotted the Daily Mailograph piece '10 Reasons Why Voting For Corbyn Will Lead to Civil War' on page 22 of the 21 Aug. issue of Private Eye.

[williamp]

Prince Philip said:

williamp said:

Just because YOU dont do anything, or dont contribute anything, do not assume the rest of the Uk. There are MANY examples in many sectors where we do a lot. Lets take the car industry. We have british owned car companies. Our factories, chosen by overseas investors as the best location are some of the most effecient in the world. One factory in Sunderland produces more vehicles then the whole of the Italian car industry.

There would be no global motorsport without british engineers, designers, technology. I could go on. I really shouldn't need to.

I run a technical services company and we are at the cutting edge of our game. However, in an economic sense, I am basically polishing someone's dog. I do alright, but it's nothing to base an economy on. If the property market crashes, we are basically toast.

You cite lots of super duper industry. Are these growing with population? Are these paying more money relative to the cost of living? If this is not the case, it's a part of the bigger problem.

The fact of the matter is that jobs are being mechanised and outsourced, as the population grows. It's all well and good to have a firm which makes lots of widgets, but it needs to grow, sell more, make more in order to underpin sustainable growth....OR you need a climate which allows more of these non-growing firms to exist.

The fact that the government has a problem with it's credit card is enough evidence for me that they can't manage the country.

More bad news:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34136541

Only £100m investment, the largest single investment this year by them. This proves how out of touch the torys are, compared to labour

[Halb]

Jasandjules said:

Indeed.

And what makes it worse is that I don't fundamentally disagree with most of what he said either (one or two exceptions).

Yeah. He's said some things I quite likes...other things that I don't like...bloody politician.

[Asterix]

0000 said:

I'm almost ready for another general election the way this is going.

When Corbyn is elected leader, Dave should give him enough rope to hang himself and before the Labour lot can react, envoke some Parliamentary ruling that allows him to call a snap election.

[Axionknight]

Asterix said:

0000 said:

I'm almost ready for another general election the way this is going.

When Corbyn is elected leader, Dave should give him enough rope to hang himself and before the Labour lot can react, envoke some Parliamentary ruling that allows him to call a snap election.

Is there one, short of a total crisis?

[Asterix]

Axionknight said:

Asterix said:

0000 said:

I'm almost ready for another general election the way this is going.

When Corbyn is elected leader, Dave should give him enough rope to hang himself and before the Labour lot can react, envoke some Parliamentary ruling that allows him to call a snap election.

Is there one, short of a total crisis?

No idea - some sort of Governmental vote of confidence? There has to be something but you're probably right - it would have to be a crisis of extreme significance for it to be applied.

[0000]

Didn't realise he couldn't call one anytime since 2011.

http://www.parliament.uk/about/how/elections-and-v...

Parliament said:

However, there are two provisions that trigger an election other than at five year intervals:

a motion of no confidence is passed in Her Majesty's Government by a simple majority and 14 days elapses without the House passing a confidence motion in any new Government formed
a motion for a general election is agreed by two thirds of the total number of seats in the Commons including vacant seats (currently 434 out of 650)

[Asterix]

0000 said:

Didn't realise he couldn't call one anytime since 2011.

http://www.parliament.uk/about/how/elections-and-v...

Parliament said:

However, there are two provisions that trigger an election other than at five year intervals:

a motion of no confidence is passed in Her Majesty's Government by a simple majority and 14 days elapses without the House passing a confidence motion in any new Government formed
a motion for a general election is agreed by two thirds of the total number of seats in the Commons including vacant seats (currently 434 out of 650)

So in theory, if he called a vote of no confidence and the majority was created by every Tory MP and they could successfully block a further confidence motion for two weeks, we'd have a snap election?

[Dog Star]

Asterix said:

When Corbyn is elected leader, Dave should give him enough rope to hang himself and before the Labour lot can react, envoke some Parliamentary ruling that allows him to call a snap election.

Why do that? If I was CMD I'd be keeping all my powder dry until about 2019, getting all my stuff ready, all the commie stuff from MI5, all Corbyn's crazy smoking guns, and then get it all released. Why do it now and run the risk that Labour might get someone electable in place?

[Axionknight]

Asterix said:

0000 said:

Didn't realise he couldn't call one anytime since 2011.

http://www.parliament.uk/about/how/elections-and-v...

Parliament said:

However, there are two provisions that trigger an election other than at five year intervals:

a motion of no confidence is passed in Her Majesty's Government by a simple majority and 14 days elapses without the House passing a confidence motion in any new Government formed
a motion for a general election is agreed by two thirds of the total number of seats in the Commons including vacant seats (currently 434 out of 650)

So in theory, if he called a vote of no confidence and the majority was created by every Tory MP and they could successfully block a further confidence motion for two weeks, we'd have a snap election?

Sounds about right.

[Andy Zarse]

EddieSteadyGo said:

BlackLabel said:

Not Corbyn's biggest fan but I hope he wins as it will tear Labour apart. Nonetheless, this (via Private Eye) rings true to me.

Very interesting article from Private Eye.

I find in very frustrating that in our politics, there are frequent and intentional attempts to misrepresent the ideas and positions of political opponents.

This occurs across the political spectrum.

It is so blatant, I can only assume the idea is to mislead the casual observer.

Of course I understand the temptation and reasons for wanting to do this. When you consider though the effect it has on the quality of decision making it is real problem.

Erm... am I being particularly dense and the only one who does not see any problem here (except for the Telegraph one about Russia, but which I reckon Corblimey would support anyway). All these pieces are obviously opinion/editorials. The headlines are perfectly fair, based on the waffle Corbyn comes out with.

For a politician who is so lauded (on the left at least) for "telling it straight", it seems to me an awful lot of hot air is expended by his fans explaining what Jezbollah really meant. It seems to me the silly muddle-headed gnome equivocates on almost everything.

[johnxjsc1985]

williamp said:

More bad news:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34136541

Only £100m investment, the largest single investment this year by them. This proves how out of touch the torys are, compared to labour

that can't be right because no company will invest in the UK if we are going to come out of Europe.

[Blib]

Off topic.

That Nissan factory turns out a car a minute. That's if it runs 24/7, 365 days a year. Astonishing.

Carry on.