Discussion
mybrainhurts said:
Johnnytheboy said:
Scuffers said:
irocfan said:
Gibraltar (kinda counts doesn't it?)
how?3 IRA terrorists were shot whilst in Gibraltar planning attacks.
"enquiries resulting from keys found on Farrell led authorities to a second car, containing a large quantity of explosives, in a car park in Spain"
so, I guess the SAS were supposed to let them blow something up first were they?
irocfan said:
mybrainhurts said:
Johnnytheboy said:
Scuffers said:
irocfan said:
Gibraltar (kinda counts doesn't it?)
how?3 IRA terrorists were shot whilst in Gibraltar planning attacks.
"enquiries resulting from keys found on Farrell led authorities to a second car, containing a large quantity of explosives, in a car park in Spain"
so, I guess the SAS were supposed to let them blow something up first were they?
Why else would they be there? holiday (bring your own semtex!)
irocfan said:
don't misunderstand me - I thought that the SAS were bang to rights! The issue is that, depending on who you listen to, as these terrorist were not actually committing an act of terror they were viewed to have been executed....
As you can get done for carrying a screwdriver for being equipped to burgle of something like that I am fairly sure a van load of explosives and guns would be frowned on.An utter car crash in the House today.
Andy Zarse on 8th September said said:
You see he will have a new and previously untrod line between currying favour with his sycophants and not becoming a laughing stock to the other 95% of the population. Thus I think being Leader of the Opposition is well beyond his pay scale and it will be a complete misery for him.
Deserted by his own front bench, even back benchers won't sit near him. I rest my case...Andy Zarse said:
Deserted by his own front bench, even back benchers won't sit near him. I rest my case...
I had one of those out of body experiences when he started speaking roday. When I came around i had lost 20mins of my life.What was he on about it was just bizzare and he keeps on giving the Evil eye to people.
hornetrider said:
Andy Zarse said:
Deserted by his own front bench, even back benchers won't sit near him. I rest my case...
What's going on there then? If that's the defence review statement you'd think Her Majesty's Opposition could drag themselves out of the commons bar.turbobloke said:
This morning there's a headline (The Times iirc) on a poll roundly reaffirming Labour grassroots support for JC.
Excellent news.
In the Guardian as well.Excellent news.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2015...
Blog linked in the Guardian article:
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/201...
Blog said:
A “Stop Jeremy” candidate will have to be a) able to, in the words of one insider, “unite the party from Lisa Nandy (on the soft left) to Wes Streeting (on the right)”. b) secure an electoral result that was, if nothing else, no worse than the 2015 election, and c) defeat Jeremy Corbyn among members.
You might as well add d) be able to transmute iron to gold or e) feed 5,000 with just five loaves and two fish. No politician with those qualities exists within the parliamentary Labour party. Corbyn is going nowhere, which means that if a reckoning is on its way, it is the Labour leader’s opponents who will be the worse off.
Oh goody.You might as well add d) be able to transmute iron to gold or e) feed 5,000 with just five loaves and two fish. No politician with those qualities exists within the parliamentary Labour party. Corbyn is going nowhere, which means that if a reckoning is on its way, it is the Labour leader’s opponents who will be the worse off.
Actually there's some quite interesting stuff when you drill into the stats.
Which for me illustrates the problem with the left wing twitterati and links back to the bruhaha on the polls not being representative at the GE. They'll slap each other on the back in their own echo chamber but their views are not actually representative of the wider public. And then they'll get angry when things don't go their way.
Guardian said:
The YouGov poll for the Times (paywall) also illustrates how, on some issues, the views of Labour members are out of step with the views of the public as a whole.
YouGov also asked about Britain taking part in air strikes against Islamic State in Syria. A majority of adults (58%) are in favour, and 49% of Labour voters support bombing.
But amongst Labour members and those eligible to vote in the leadership contest (affiliated supporters and registered supporters) the figure is just 30%. And, amongst those who voted for Corbyn, the figure is a mere 14%.
YouGov also asked about Britain taking part in air strikes against Islamic State in Syria. A majority of adults (58%) are in favour, and 49% of Labour voters support bombing.
But amongst Labour members and those eligible to vote in the leadership contest (affiliated supporters and registered supporters) the figure is just 30%. And, amongst those who voted for Corbyn, the figure is a mere 14%.
Which for me illustrates the problem with the left wing twitterati and links back to the bruhaha on the polls not being representative at the GE. They'll slap each other on the back in their own echo chamber but their views are not actually representative of the wider public. And then they'll get angry when things don't go their way.
Is the Labour vote down that much across the country?
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/
I thought this was interesting.
"65% thought Jeremy Corbyn was doing well as leader, 34% badly as leader. Less promisingly, only 46% think it’s likely Labour will win the next election under Corbyn and only 38% think it’s likely he will ever be PM. Labour party members think Corbyn is doing well and expect him to lose. This apparent contradiction is easily resolved: 56% of Labour members think parties should say what they believe, even if it’s unpopular and loses elections, in comparison 32% think they should compromise in order to put foward policies that allow it to win an election and put policies into action."
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/
I thought this was interesting.
"65% thought Jeremy Corbyn was doing well as leader, 34% badly as leader. Less promisingly, only 46% think it’s likely Labour will win the next election under Corbyn and only 38% think it’s likely he will ever be PM. Labour party members think Corbyn is doing well and expect him to lose. This apparent contradiction is easily resolved: 56% of Labour members think parties should say what they believe, even if it’s unpopular and loses elections, in comparison 32% think they should compromise in order to put foward policies that allow it to win an election and put policies into action."
Just some footage of todays in parliament on Guido...
So with everything going on in the world, Jeremy chooses to lead his questions to the PM on the subject of the concerns of three people has to why the government is abandoning the solar panel industry.
And then, after the spending review announcement, his equally mental chancellor decides to quote Mao at Osbourne, before throwing a copy of the little red book at him.
Honestly, you really couldn't make this s
t up. The Labour Party is deep, deep st with these deluded morons in charge.
Good.
So with everything going on in the world, Jeremy chooses to lead his questions to the PM on the subject of the concerns of three people has to why the government is abandoning the solar panel industry.
And then, after the spending review announcement, his equally mental chancellor decides to quote Mao at Osbourne, before throwing a copy of the little red book at him.
Honestly, you really couldn't make this s
t up. The Labour Party is deep, deep st with these deluded morons in charge.Good.
The Hypno-Toad said:
Just some footage of todays in parliament on Guido...
So with everything going on in the world, Jeremy chooses to lead his questions to the PM on the subject of the concerns of three people has to why the government is abandoning the solar panel industry.
And then, after the spending review announcement, his equally mental chancellor decides to quote Mao at Osbourne, before throwing a copy of the little red book at him.
Honestly, you really couldn't make this st up. The Labour Party is deep, deep st with these deluded morons in charge.
Good.
McDonnell's speech was surreal.So with everything going on in the world, Jeremy chooses to lead his questions to the PM on the subject of the concerns of three people has to why the government is abandoning the solar panel industry.
And then, after the spending review announcement, his equally mental chancellor decides to quote Mao at Osbourne, before throwing a copy of the little red book at him.
Honestly, you really couldn't make this s
t up. The Labour Party is deep, deep st with these deluded morons in charge.Good.
The Hypno-Toad said:
Just some footage of todays in parliament on Guido...
So with everything going on in the world, Jeremy chooses to lead his questions to the PM on the subject of the concerns of three people has to why the government is abandoning the solar panel industry.
And then, after the spending review announcement, his equally mental chancellor decides to quote Mao at Osbourne, before throwing a copy of the little red book at him.
Honestly, you really couldn't make this st up. The Labour Party is deep, deep st with these deluded morons in charge.
Good.
I see your Good and raise an Excellent.So with everything going on in the world, Jeremy chooses to lead his questions to the PM on the subject of the concerns of three people has to why the government is abandoning the solar panel industry.
And then, after the spending review announcement, his equally mental chancellor decides to quote Mao at Osbourne, before throwing a copy of the little red book at him.
Honestly, you really couldn't make this s
t up. The Labour Party is deep, deep st with these deluded morons in charge.Good.
There's more about where Ronald McDonnell has been burgering about at the link.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Co...
Lots of fun just a click away, but for now:
Article said:
Today the Chancellor of the Exchequer will announce the conclusions of the government’s Comprehensive Spending Review. The consequences of George Osborne’s announcements will be huge, not just for the country at large, but for both government and opposition. It will be a busy day for the Shadow Chancellor, John McDonnell, in the Commons this afternoon and later in the TV and radio studios.
Except that’s not where McDonnell will be this evening. He won’t be telling wavering voters about his party’s opposition to cuts or trying to persuade them of his personal commitment to balancing the budget while defending public services.
Instead John McDonnell will be sharing a platform with Labour’s opponents – not to debate with them, but to show solidarity with them.
Except that’s not where McDonnell will be this evening. He won’t be telling wavering voters about his party’s opposition to cuts or trying to persuade them of his personal commitment to balancing the budget while defending public services.
Instead John McDonnell will be sharing a platform with Labour’s opponents – not to debate with them, but to show solidarity with them.
The Hypno-Toad said:
Just some footage of todays in parliament on Guido...
So with everything going on in the world, Jeremy chooses to lead his questions to the PM on the subject of the concerns of three people has to why the government is abandoning the solar panel industry.
And then, after the spending review announcement, his equally mental chancellor decides to quote Mao at Osbourne, before throwing a copy of the little red book at him.
Honestly, you really couldn't make this st up. The Labour Party is deep, deep st with these deluded morons in charge.
Good.
It was in jest, but totally pointless. Labour really has lost its way but why are people still supporting as shown by polls? So with everything going on in the world, Jeremy chooses to lead his questions to the PM on the subject of the concerns of three people has to why the government is abandoning the solar panel industry.
And then, after the spending review announcement, his equally mental chancellor decides to quote Mao at Osbourne, before throwing a copy of the little red book at him.
Honestly, you really couldn't make this s
t up. The Labour Party is deep, deep st with these deluded morons in charge.Good.
Is it because of non-newsreading entrenched third generation Labour voters who just assume that Labour is better because it was in Granddads time, or is it the stereotypical young bloods wanting to do anything that promises to give them 2 quid now and they hate whatever the Government does anyway?
turbobloke said:
The Hypno-Toad said:
Just some footage of todays in parliament on Guido...
So with everything going on in the world, Jeremy chooses to lead his questions to the PM on the subject of the concerns of three people has to why the government is abandoning the solar panel industry.
And then, after the spending review announcement, his equally mental chancellor decides to quote Mao at Osbourne, before throwing a copy of the little red book at him.
Honestly, you really couldn't make this st up. The Labour Party is deep, deep st with these deluded morons in charge.
Good.
I see your Good and raise an Excellent.So with everything going on in the world, Jeremy chooses to lead his questions to the PM on the subject of the concerns of three people has to why the government is abandoning the solar panel industry.
And then, after the spending review announcement, his equally mental chancellor decides to quote Mao at Osbourne, before throwing a copy of the little red book at him.
Honestly, you really couldn't make this s
t up. The Labour Party is deep, deep st with these deluded morons in charge.Good.
There's more about where Ronald McDonnell has been burgering about at the link.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Co...
Lots of fun just a click away, but for now:
Article said:
Today the Chancellor of the Exchequer will announce the conclusions of the government’s Comprehensive Spending Review. The consequences of George Osborne’s announcements will be huge, not just for the country at large, but for both government and opposition. It will be a busy day for the Shadow Chancellor, John McDonnell, in the Commons this afternoon and later in the TV and radio studios.
Except that’s not where McDonnell will be this evening. He won’t be telling wavering voters about his party’s opposition to cuts or trying to persuade them of his personal commitment to balancing the budget while defending public services.
Instead John McDonnell will be sharing a platform with Labour’s opponents – not to debate with them, but to show solidarity with them.
Except that’s not where McDonnell will be this evening. He won’t be telling wavering voters about his party’s opposition to cuts or trying to persuade them of his personal commitment to balancing the budget while defending public services.
Instead John McDonnell will be sharing a platform with Labour’s opponents – not to debate with them, but to show solidarity with them.
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