Jeremy Corbyn

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turbobloke

103,744 posts

259 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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There won't be a video-equipped fly on the wall of the Shadow Cabinet meeting later today but we may get details from one of the many disgruntled non-Corbynite members. Not old flame Diane Abbott for sure - her talking head was telling TV cameras yesterday that Corbyn appoints the Shadow Cabinet not vice versa. Genius at work.

PositronicRay

26,959 posts

182 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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JC never wanted to be leader in the 1st place. I always thought he'd be gone by xmas.

He'll use this episode to bow out, leaving the party in tatters but his principles intact. Then he'll go back to what he does best, being an awkward sod (and the Labour party conscience) on the back benches. Leaving the way clear for Hillary Benn.

Gargamel

14,958 posts

260 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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johnxjsc1985 said:
they got away with murder in those first few years he wasnt called Teflon Tony for nothing
Dr David Kelly ?


turbobloke

103,744 posts

259 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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PositronicRay said:
JC never wanted to be leader in the 1st place. I always thought he'd be gone by xmas.

He'll use this episode to bow out, leaving the party in tatters but his principles intact. Then he'll go back to what he does best, being an awkward sod (and the Labour party conscience) on the back benches. Leaving the way clear for Hillary Benn.
Possibly, but then again...

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2015-07-22/jeremy-c...

See vid. "Jeremy Corbyn tonight said he would 'of course' like to become Prime Minister, as Labour leadership candidates debated on LBC radio."

anonymous-user

53 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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I am slowly coming around to the view that the Labour Party won't stage a major recovery because it is now supported by people who either have naive student politics or who are uninformed but vote on the basis of supposed tribal allegiance and/or advantage, in much the same way that the proverbial Telegraph reader instinctively favours a blue style of Tory. People like me - educated metro soft left social democracy types, are almost universally* appalled by Corbyn and all that he stands for, but are also uninterested in the unprincipled mishmash that is Libdemism.

I am also more and more of the opinion that the Cameron and Osborne version of Conservatism really is much closer to the Blairite version of Labour than I had previously thought. Thus many of the well trodden observations about the fight for the centre seem to be right. There are still things about the Tory Government that I deplore - I think that people like Gove and Grayling and IDS have some wrong headed ideas about how to deal with societal problems including welfarism, education and the administration of justice; but I am finding it hard to disagree with much of the core stuff that Cameron and Osborne put together. I do deplore the general authoritarian slant of the Government, but all recent Governments have been authoritarian. Foreign policy is also SNAFU, if not FUBAR, but that too has been the case for years.



* I base this not at all sweeping generalisation on highly scientific surveys conducted by moaning and groaning with fellow metro lefties over the Chateau Malescot St Exupery at Balthazar.

Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 27th November 08:01

Eric Mc

121,785 posts

264 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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Will he be gone by this evening?

tobinen

9,184 posts

144 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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He can't have long left, can he?

turbobloke

103,744 posts

259 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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tobinen said:
He can't have long left, can he?
Hope so.

turbobloke

103,744 posts

259 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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Eric Mc said:
Will he be gone by this evening?
Some members of his Shadow Cabinet may resign after their meeting today.

We shall see...political spectator sport is looking up.

Hopefully, comrade Corbyn will stay put.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

204 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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I can't see him going yet, and I don't think there is a method to get him out unless he resigns. He won't resign because he has a massive party mandate. The more realistic scenario is he faces mass cabinet resignations, then there'll be a week of clusterfking where he tries to cling on (because he can't do anything properly) and then he'll resign as no-one will want to join his cabinet.

Beautiful.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

283 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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turbobloke said:
Some members of his Shadow Cabinet may resign after their meeting today.
Think this will be the acid test of the intent of the nay sayers. Somehow I think they will not but then I have an edible hat just in case.

Cobnapint

8,597 posts

150 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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jmorgan said:
turbobloke said:
Some members of his Shadow Cabinet may resign after their meeting today.
Think this will be the acid test of the intent of the nay sayers. Somehow I think they will not but then I have an edible hat just in case.
It's just a matter of time. Most Labour MPs (apart from Abbotpotamus) have given up trying to defend him during interviews. It's twisting their guts, you can see it in their faces.

anonymous-user

53 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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The problem is that the tosspot would, IIRC, be entitled to stand for re election if ousted as leader, and the same idiots (and Tories with three quid) that voted the tt in last time would vote him in again. Party split possible.

anonymous-user

53 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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Breadvan72 said:
* moaning and groaning with fellow metro lefties over the Chateau Malescot St Exupery at Balthazar.
Believe me, its the same over Dogbolter at The Queens Head

DavidJG

3,507 posts

131 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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Breadvan72 said:
The problem is that the tosspot would, IIRC, be entitled to stand for re election if ousted as leader, and the same idiots (and Tories with three quid) that voted the tt in last time would vote him in again. Party split possible.
Party split highly likely. Corbyn & Mao-Donnell will stay, anyone with any intelligence / common sense will quit and form something more rational, much as the 'gang of 4' did in the 80s.


turbobloke

103,744 posts

259 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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DavidJG said:
Breadvan72 said:
The problem is that the tosspot would, IIRC, be entitled to stand for re election if ousted as leader, and the same idiots (and Tories with three quid) that voted the tt in last time would vote him in again. Party split possible.
Party split highly likely. Corbyn & Mao-Donnell will stay, anyone with any intelligence / common sense will quit and form something more rational, much as the 'gang of 4' did in the 80s.
Always possible if less likely - they make overtures to whoever the anonoymous nobody in charge of the useless LibDims currently is.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

283 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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Cobnapint said:
It's just a matter of time. Most Labour MPs (apart from Abbotpotamus) have given up trying to defend him during interviews. It's twisting their guts, you can see it in their faces.
Oh I agree, but too soon I think and the squirming and avoiding questions will be immense.

anonymous-user

53 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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Poor old Corby's not having a good time of it, no wonder though, he's been an utter disaster. Despite all his failures, I understand he still enjoys support from the grass roots labour supporters.

The only way they can become electable is to select another Blairite candidate but someone not tarnished by all their past failures.

It's quite a phenomenon, we're quite lucky to be watching it really.

anonymous-user

53 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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V6Pushfit said:
Breadvan72 said:
* moaning and groaning with fellow metro lefties over the Chateau Malescot St Exupery at Balthazar.
Believe me, its the same over Dogbolter at The Queens Head
I am such a wuss; Dogbolter is too strong for me.

PositronicRay

26,959 posts

182 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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turbobloke said:
PositronicRay said:
JC never wanted to be leader in the 1st place. I always thought he'd be gone by xmas.

He'll use this episode to bow out, leaving the party in tatters but his principles intact. Then he'll go back to what he does best, being an awkward sod (and the Labour party conscience) on the back benches. Leaving the way clear for Hillary Benn.
Possibly, but then again...

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2015-07-22/jeremy-c...

See vid. "Jeremy Corbyn tonight said he would 'of course' like to become Prime Minister, as Labour leadership candidates debated on LBC radio."
JC does not have the energy to cope with the stress of leadership, and he knows it, despite putting a brave face on it.

He was flattered to be pushed to the fore, the reality is sinking in.
He needs to climb down whilst saving face and keeping his principles intact.

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