Driving a 1970 911 2.2S

Driving a 1970 911 2.2S

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braddo

10,399 posts

187 months

Monday 20th July 2015
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drmark

4,794 posts

185 months

Monday 20th July 2015
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My old car smile
She is a beauty. And looking better than ever.

PS the gear change is like a hot knife through butter, you just need to know where to place it, and get used to the long throw. It takes a while. I loved learning.

Edited by drmark on Monday 20th July 17:26

YoungMD

326 posts

119 months

Monday 20th July 2015
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Great write-up!! For me it's the size of the old s,t, and e they just look perfectly formed from a time when it was not necessary to display your bank balance with bling. Although size of the cayman is very good too, I have a modern 997s and it could do with a little diet!

mollytherocker

14,365 posts

208 months

Monday 20th July 2015
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Great write up cmoose. I have never had the pleasure of driving a pre impact 911 but your thoughts convince me that the 911S is probably my perfect 911.

Klippie

3,096 posts

144 months

Monday 20th July 2015
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Love the lines of the classic 911's...but seeing your Cayman next to it shows its lovely lines too.


g7jhp

6,959 posts

237 months

Monday 20th July 2015
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Yep, great write up cmoose. I'm also yet to have the pleasure to drive a 911 earlier than the 3.2 Carrera, but it's on the list.


Solarized

436 posts

140 months

Monday 20th July 2015
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Another great write up.
Cheers.

IMI A

9,410 posts

200 months

Monday 20th July 2015
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Great write up cmoose! Hopefully someone will lend you a 2.7 RS - same pace as much later cars in a very light shell! Very special indeed. Slippy your yellow RS is unbelievably nice - I'd go as far as saying perfect (for me). Haven't seen her in the classifieds.....

Digga

40,206 posts

282 months

Tuesday 21st July 2015
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Lovely write up, and that 911S is a little gem.

Setting values - past, present & future - entirely aside, I find it is really interesting to contrast the driver experience and feel of vehicles. That you can find so many parallels and also (often significant) differences across the range that the broad public would recognise as "911" is fascinating. For some, the experience of being at the cutting-edge - the newest (and fastest?) - is paramount, whilst for others, the patina of history and the involvement of truly analogue controls is where the pleasure is derived.

I guess for most of us, our choice(s) are restricted by funds and are made to best reflect the balance of the compromises we're prepared to take. I guess with this 911S the compromise, aside from cost, is that it's probably best as a fair-weather, high days and holidays type of car, for which I'm certain it would excel.

IMI A

9,410 posts

200 months

Tuesday 21st July 2015
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And a 993 RS and 993 C2 pls!

graemel

7,017 posts

216 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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A lovely review cmoose. Those 911 engines on mfi have such a unique sound. Over the last couple of year I have been drawn to the early stuff. I was always a 930 turbo bodied man which I still am but I have been drawn to the simplicity and the purer design of the pre impact bumper 911's. Perhaps at some point you might like to sample the delights of a 1965 911 FIA Historic race car.

drmark

4,794 posts

185 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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Given how beautiful the car is now, thought you may be surprised by how bad it was before restored and I bought it.
Here is what was left of the body:






drmark

4,794 posts

185 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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And here is the rather sad looking engine. Hard to believe it is the same car.


Digga

40,206 posts

282 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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drmark said:
Given how beautiful the car is now, thought you may be surprised by how bad it was before restored and I bought it.
Here is what was left of the body:

Fascinating to see the project. Did you coat/treat the shell so it was a bit more corrosion resistant than the original?

I have a mate (he's on PH occasionally) who runs a couple of metal treatment plants with his father, who's a huge classic 911 fan, and IIRC he's done at least one of his.

drmark

4,794 posts

185 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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Digga said:
ascinating to see the project. Did you coat/treat the shell so it was a bit more corrosion resistant than the original?

I have a mate (he's on PH occasionally) who runs a couple of metal treatment plants with his father, who's a huge classic 911 fan, and IIRC he's done at least one of his.
Here is the full story - if you have a spare hour. Just shows what can be done.
http://www.early911sregistry.org/forums/showthread...

Digga

40,206 posts

282 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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drmark said:
Digga said:
ascinating to see the project. Did you coat/treat the shell so it was a bit more corrosion resistant than the original?

I have a mate (he's on PH occasionally) who runs a couple of metal treatment plants with his father, who's a huge classic 911 fan, and IIRC he's done at least one of his.
Here is the full story - if you have a spare hour. Just shows what can be done.
http://www.early911sregistry.org/forums/showthread...
Thank you for enriching today's lunch hour!

993kimbo

2,972 posts

184 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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cmoose - very enjoyable reading - all three reviews. Nicely written without smart-arse journo comments. I think you should do more.


I thought that you felt the Cayman was pretty close in lightness of touch to some of the early cars, are you not finding that anymore?

sato

580 posts

210 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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What really comes across in these reviews is how each car has it's own character. As someone who has pretty minimal experience with 911s, I just assumed that as the car got newer it got faster and more refined, when it is clearly not as simple as that. The other thing that strikes me from reading about your drives is that it doesn't lead to the desire to own any one of the cars you have driven - but several of them at the same time to experience the contrast and nuances between them. I can see why now it is relatively common for people to own multiple 'old 911s' compared to the number of people who multiple 'another old sportscar'.
You have provided a great insight into why classic 911s have the following that they do, and now I want one.

Digga

40,206 posts

282 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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anonymous said:
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Setting price aside, I think a lot of us have a very broad spectrum of cars that we could really appreciate and enjoy owning and getting to know.

From a personal angle looking at my own car choice, although I fully understand the sharpness and urgency of a GT3 - totally - I also know, in my heart, that for what I was looking for, a Turbo was the right car - strangely, not so much for speed (I think a cooking 911 would suffice in that regard) but for looks (I grew up with a 959 poster in my room), year-round usability and practicality, and also (rightly or wrongly) because I wanted a Mezger engined car.

However, I think I could fall in love in an instant with the 911S and never want to part with it. The 'character' of some of the older machinery is epic. Equally though, I could also see the appeal of a very frugal, early Boxter being strong, if that is where I found myself.

sato

580 posts

210 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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anonymous said:
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I think that's part of the attraction, all the different combinations and permuatations mean that you could spend a lifetime finding that 'one'. Thrill of the chase and all that...