How do you claim credit thats due?
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I think if you go into something with the outcome being 'this'll do good for everyone' then it doesnt matter if the bosses arent stroking your gooch, you've got what you wanted to achieve.
If you go in thinking 'these f
kers are going to suck my wanger for years after this' then you probably havent set out to do good for everyone, just you.
There's a certain satisfaction in achieving something for the greater good, it doesnt matter if you dont get praise, but if you set out for the thanks, you'll never get enough
If you go in thinking 'these f
kers are going to suck my wanger for years after this' then you probably havent set out to do good for everyone, just you. There's a certain satisfaction in achieving something for the greater good, it doesnt matter if you dont get praise, but if you set out for the thanks, you'll never get enough
What do you actually want to happen? Are you wanting praise and adulation, some financial reward, or for everyone to respect you?
I think if you're fishing for compliments you need to be upfront when you're actually doing the work about how hard it is. It's always the people who harp on about how difficult something is that get praised, whereas the ones who shut up and just do it don't.
However, that moment has passed, so learn from it and move on.
I think if you're fishing for compliments you need to be upfront when you're actually doing the work about how hard it is. It's always the people who harp on about how difficult something is that get praised, whereas the ones who shut up and just do it don't.
However, that moment has passed, so learn from it and move on.
If you are the one enthusing and explaining in detail how this was achieved then the people you talk to will link you with that achievement. That's great but does nothing to prompt them to reward you.
Ask for some holiday time in lieu of your extra hours burned on this project?
Can you do more of this kind of work? If so then let the decision makers know and carve your own niche/job/department in the firm.
or..
Write up your work favourably on your CV. Use it for the next job!
or..
Can you use your knowledge to achieve the same cost saving for others? Start your own consultancy doing that (using your own documentation written an home that is, copying files from work is obviously a big no).
Ask for some holiday time in lieu of your extra hours burned on this project?
Can you do more of this kind of work? If so then let the decision makers know and carve your own niche/job/department in the firm.
or..
Write up your work favourably on your CV. Use it for the next job!
or..
Can you use your knowledge to achieve the same cost saving for others? Start your own consultancy doing that (using your own documentation written an home that is, copying files from work is obviously a big no).
Cheers for those replies. Appreciate the collective wisdom that's available here.
Hasn't gone too well here at my end
.
All management are under the impression I was a bit-part. Problem is, it's a competitive place and the shouty ones get ahead. I, like a tt, am a quiet engineer. One who can do great stuff but massively f***ing panics at the idea of competition, confrontation, or even asking simply for something I would like. God knows why.
Anyway, plan this week is to do something about it anyway. Better to do something, risk totally f***ing everything up, than not to try at all.
F***, sometimes I really wonder why I bother. I could have just sat at a desk reading the internet, treating myself to peaceful quiet days, like so many colleagues. Bah.
Hasn't gone too well here at my end
.All management are under the impression I was a bit-part. Problem is, it's a competitive place and the shouty ones get ahead. I, like a t
t, am a quiet engineer. One who can do great stuff but massively f***ing panics at the idea of competition, confrontation, or even asking simply for something I would like. God knows why.Anyway, plan this week is to do something about it anyway. Better to do something, risk totally f***ing everything up, than not to try at all.
F***, sometimes I really wonder why I bother. I could have just sat at a desk reading the internet, treating myself to peaceful quiet days, like so many colleagues. Bah.
Just a thought Pento but have you considered changing companies? You can apply your evident talent and ability wherever you work, but some places are much better at appreciating it than others. Equally some line managers will take every opportunity to flag up the good work of their staff, others will claim credit for their brilliant management and fob off their staff. Could you, for example, work for a smaller company where there would be less of a crowd to stand out from and output is more easily traceable to source?
If the project is not complete... Im with the above poster, kill it stone dead and let the gobby ste that claims the credit to fix it, I don't tolerate people like that, but learned many years ago that if you don't speak up then you might as well work on the production line of a factory and get on with it.
If you want to play with all the cool stuff then speak up, then someone will remember what you did, when there is the chance of them needing something like this again, guess who they will look at... YOU!!
te that claims the credit to fix it, I don't tolerate people like that, but learned many years ago that if you don't speak up then you might as well work on the production line of a factory and get on with it.If you want to play with all the cool stuff then speak up, then someone will remember what you did, when there is the chance of them needing something like this again, guess who they will look at... YOU!!
Pentoman said:
Hasn't gone too well here at my end .
All management are under the impression I was a bit-part. Problem is, it's a competitive place and the shouty ones get ahead
Have you worked there long? Over time, half decent management often work out who is full of hot air and who can actually do the job. You might not get absolute credit for this one project but you should get a feel for whether you are considered an important member of staff, perhaps around the time of your next pay review. .All management are under the impression I was a bit-part. Problem is, it's a competitive place and the shouty ones get ahead
It's also important to remember that although you may have been the main person on this project, there is probably someone else who can do the job from the management's point of view. You should give YOURSELF credit for your achievement first and foremost. Waiting for credit/pay rises/promotion/training from employers is risky. Get your achievements on a CV ready to promote YOURSELF into a new job with more responsibility and better money!
Foliage said:
Kill the project, be the only one who can fix it, or put a grievance in with your HR department plagiarism/fraud should be taken seriously.
Du1point8 said:
If the project is not complete... Im with the above poster, kill it stone dead and let the gobby ste that claims the credit to fix it, I don't tolerate people like that, but learned many years ago that if you don't speak up then you might as well work on the production line of a factory and get on with it.
If you want to play with all the cool stuff then speak up, then someone will remember what you did, when there is the chance of them needing something like this again, guess who they will look at... YOU!!
Both of these are right on the money.te that claims the credit to fix it, I don't tolerate people like that, but learned many years ago that if you don't speak up then you might as well work on the production line of a factory and get on with it.If you want to play with all the cool stuff then speak up, then someone will remember what you did, when there is the chance of them needing something like this again, guess who they will look at... YOU!!
I was in a similar position a few years back, there was an arselicker bad mouthing me to the management and trying to make life difficult for me. Just because I made the job look easy didn't mean it was easy as the arselicker soon found out when I left. It all went very s
t shaped under his 'management'A few words on the subject from Mr Gilbert-
My boy, you may take it from me,
That of all the afflictions accurst
With which a man’s saddled
And hampered and addled,
A diffident nature’s the worst...
...You must stir it and stump it,
And blow your own trumpet,
Or, trust me, you haven’t a chance!
My boy, you may take it from me,
That of all the afflictions accurst
With which a man’s saddled
And hampered and addled,
A diffident nature’s the worst...
...You must stir it and stump it,
And blow your own trumpet,
Or, trust me, you haven’t a chance!
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