The **BOXING** thread Vol 2

The **BOXING** thread Vol 2

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2hoots

57 posts

102 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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David Haye is back. Fights Mark De Mori at London’s O2 Arena on January 16.

m4tti

5,427 posts

155 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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2hoots said:
David Haye is back. Fights Mark De Mori at London’s O2 Arena on January 16.
Ranked 108 in the world...

andburg

7,272 posts

169 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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top 5 in Australia behind Alex Leapai and Lucas Browne

http://boxrec.com/boxer/237842

Fight wont sell but at least it will get some rust off and hopefully be followed quite quickly by decent opponent.

2hoots

57 posts

102 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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He's only lost 1 fight but I know so little about him that it could have been against my window cleaner.

andburg

7,272 posts

169 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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his last 10 opponents have lost 123 fights between them!

m4tti

5,427 posts

155 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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Suprised he isn't trying one of the taller guys out there like Robert Helenius as a warm up to wilder/Klitschko/fury. He may have been a little too tough an option on his comeback.

tuscaneer

7,753 posts

225 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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m4tti said:
Making a veiled accusation that wladimir's a juicer is a strange one. It's like he's making excuses even before he's lost.
pulev started with all that st and ended up being half killed for that indiscretion!

tuscaneer

7,753 posts

225 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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mark de mori???!!!! piss poor choice i'm afraid. there are plenty of better names to fight than that

tuscaneer

7,753 posts

225 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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m4tti said:
Suprised he isn't trying one of the taller guys out there like Robert Helenius as a warm up to wilder/Klitschko/fury. He may have been a little too tough an option on his comeback.
i think helenius fully fit is a ball ache for anyone! i can forgive him for not taking him as his come back fight!

Yiliterate

3,786 posts

206 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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In stark contrast to my Bellew musings, since stepping up to heavyweight, Haye has proven himself the master of shrewd career-path planning...and this is right up there! 5th best heavyweight in Australia...serial fighter of boxers with losing records...yet ranked 8th with the WBA so win and Haye gets a ranking that allows him to be selected for voluntary defences!!! Now remind me tusc, which fight did you note Haye was in attendance for a week or two back? Was it the relatively small, relatively slow WBA 'regular' world champion Ruslan Chagaev (i.e. the least dangerous of the current belt-holders) defending his title by any chance...???
scratchchin

tuscaneer

7,753 posts

225 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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between us we have got these bds worked out!

with the rematch of chagaev and oquendo not taking place last month, and no resolve to reschedule it's looking more likely that chagaev will fight mandatory lucas browne.......


.......just in time for haye to have come through against what's-his-name and get his shot.....and you'd pick him a comfortable winner against both.

you have to wonder what the end game would be....or would he just be happy having a slice of the pie once again?

Yiliterate

3,786 posts

206 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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tuscaneer said:
you have to wonder what the end game would be....or would he just be happy having a slice of the pie once again?
Good question...maybe he doesn't yet know himself, but one thing he will have learnt from his dealings with the Klitschkos last time around; get yourself a title and you've got something to negotiate with. Whether he would use that to push for a re-match with Wlad, as a carrot for Joshua or a shot at salvation for Fury should he come up short on Saturday...whichever, it opens the door to a big fight and a big pay-day down the line!

FredClogs

14,041 posts

161 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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"He who shall not be named" still owes me £15 for the Audley Harrison debacle, maybe Shane Mcguigan can persuade Freddie Flintoff out of retirement as Hayes next match?

I'm in camp Fury now (although I reserve the right to change back as circumstances arise).

Does anyone give Fury a chance at the weekend? I've been watching the stuff on Sky and watching his previous stuff on Youtube (upper cutting himself aside) I'm starting to think maybe he can do it... Am I deluding myself?

hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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Yes.

spikeyhead

17,299 posts

197 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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I reckon Fury has about a 10% chance of winning, but it does need Wlad to stub his toe on the way into the ring smile

2hoots

57 posts

102 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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whilst accidentally poking both his own eyes and losing an arm to leprosy on the ring walk

FredClogs

14,041 posts

161 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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Well I'm sticking £20 on Tyson to win rounds 7-9 at 18/1. I don't usually do gambling but I can feel this in my water...

http://www.badlefthook.com/2015/3/4/8147815/hammer...

Watch some of his highlight reel on youtube, his movement, his boxing on the back foot going backwards, his hand speed, his natural physique, his 4 inch reach advantage plus the ability to box from Southpaw effectively putting more than half the ring between himself and Klitchko's right hand... I've committed to it... Come on Tyson.

Fittster

20,120 posts

213 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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FredClogs said:
Does anyone give Fury a chance at the weekend?
I don't give him any chance at all. To me he exists to gage what damage father time has done to Klitschko. Against Jennings he looked poor, could have been an off night or maybe he's not the man he once was. If he lets Fury take him to the 8th round then Povetin and Wilder may fancy their chances.

The other interesting thing is Fury's future after a loss. If Joshua does turn out to have a chin then a bout against Fury would be a useful yard stick of his quality.

mikebradford

2,508 posts

145 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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Well regardless of who wins, fury can take credit in making this match exciting.
The build up has been pantomime, and as such created interest maybe beyond what would have been otherwise.
I admire Klitschko but hes not someone i would usually pay to watch. He doesn't hold the same excitement for me as when i was a young kid watching Mike Tyson.

But this weekend im meeting up with a few mates to watch this. As such Fury has done his job, getting bums on seats.

In terms of his chance, hes a big lad and has a chance. Will be interesting to see if Fury can land a few repetitive big shots and see how Klitschko reacts. As hes not really been under a lot of pressure from the majority of his previous opponents.

I just went to book, and programming starts at 7pm
It states the ring walk starts 9.55pm
And their is obviously an under card.

So if someone can clarify, does that mean the first fight on the card starts at 9.55pm? or is that when the Fury Klitschko fight is anticipated to start?

Edited to add just found the 9.55pm is the intended start time of the main Event with Fury entering the ring first! lol


Edited by mikebradford on Wednesday 25th November 08:35

tuscaneer

7,753 posts

225 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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Yiliterate said:
Good question...maybe he doesn't yet know himself, but one thing he will have learnt from his dealings with the Klitschkos last time around; get yourself a title and you've got something to negotiate with. Whether he would use that to push for a re-match with Wlad, as a carrot for Joshua or a shot at salvation for Fury should he come up short on Saturday...whichever, it opens the door to a big fight and a big pay-day down the line!
when interviewed yesterday he talked about fury's chances against wlad and said something along the lines of klitschko is so hard to beat that fury has no chance. he had an air of resignation in his manner that tells me he doesn't BELIEVE he could beat him should they meet again. of course that could all change if wlad looks st on saturday night. there are only so many times you can go to the well and although he's clean living and supremely conditioned wlad is 40 in a couple of months. think of all the hundreds of fights he's engaged in throughout his entire career.
amateur and pro(with similar career trajectories) he has had something like 120 MORE fights than lennox lewis had in his entire career....that's right,120 more!! and lennox was all done at 37. it does make you wonder how he has stayed as fresh as he has

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