Do you fit a front plate?
Poll: Do you fit a front plate?
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Discussion
Quickmoose said:
If a vain owner of something rare and exotic got a slap on the wrist for trying it on, then they took a risk and they paid the price.
My point is they have't "took a risk and they paid the price" have they? A fine of 0.01% of the car value is not a suitable price to pay for deliberately removing someone else's opportunity to note down your numberplate if you do something idiotic or cause damage to someone else's property / hurt someone, is it?KFC said:
Quickmoose said:
If a vain owner of something rare and exotic got a slap on the wrist for trying it on, then they took a risk and they paid the price.
My point is they have't "took a risk and they paid the price" have they? A fine of 0.01% of the car value is not a suitable price to pay for deliberately removing someone else's opportunity to note down your numberplate if you do something idiotic or cause damage to someone else's property / hurt someone, is it?
who knows nothing about the reasons of not having that number plate - and some ARE justified - to commit further crime is not justifiable in any way is it?As an aside, just playing devils advocate, I wonder how many owners of such exotics compared to owners of bland white goods commit such acts of foolery... I mean such rich people who won't sniff at a fine won't sniff at paying for the fuel either right, so they won't be trying to evade cameras on forecourts...I'd be very interested to see just how many use their cars as battering rams in any given situation on the road, and given the rarity, if they hurt anyone and were seen to be doing so without a numberplate, I'm guessing the search for the lime greem Lambo in the right area wouldn't last too long...
and that's not taking into account the rear number plate and any witnesses desctriptions.
So what we're talking about here is a common, bland supercar who accidentally hits someone or something, and leaves without anyone seeing them, or if the person who was hurt does see them it all happened without them seing anythig specific, unique or the rear number plate....
Face it, your describing a scenario that is miniscule in relation to any and all other motoring crimes.... I haven't read anyone justifying the vanadalism of a stranger's car for the very many more regular and dangerous ones
Thats fine, I appreciate the chance of one of these cars being involved in an incident that the lack of number plate being an issue in is miniscule. I still just don't think that justifies you doing it.
Quickmoose said:
In this country I'm fairly sure that's exactly how it is....the rights and wrongs of which are an entirely different conversation, and even IF the result of that converation is - it's not fair - expecting or allowing some random who knows nothing about the reasons of not having that number plate - and some ARE justified - to commit further crime is not justifiable in any way is it?
Go on then, what is a justifiable reason for being in a Tesco car park in an Aventador with no front number plate. who knows nothing about the reasons of not having that number plate - and some ARE justified - to commit further crime is not justifiable in any way is it?KFC said:
Thats fine, I appreciate the chance of one of these cars being involved in an incident that the lack of number plate being an issue in is miniscule. I still just don't think that justifies you doing it.
1. someone's stolen it.Quickmoose said:
In this country I'm fairly sure that's exactly how it is....the rights and wrongs of which are an entirely different conversation, and even IF the result of that converation is - it's not fair - expecting or allowing some random who knows nothing about the reasons of not having that number plate - and some ARE justified - to commit further crime is not justifiable in any way is it?
Go on then, what is a justifiable reason for being in a Tesco car park in an Aventador with no front number plate. who knows nothing about the reasons of not having that number plate - and some ARE justified - to commit further crime is not justifiable in any way is it?2. someone's knocked it off
3. It did fall off and it is on the dashboard
Quickmoose said:
1. someone's stolen it.
2. someone's knocked it off
3. It did fall off and it is on the dashboard
None of those would be valid when the front bumper doesn't have any sort of screw holes or mounts to put the plate on in the first place. 2. someone's knocked it off
3. It did fall off and it is on the dashboard
Slickhillsy said:
5. (my favourite) It annoys the feck out of KFC! 
This thread escalated quickly. 
KFC's attitude is the exactly sort of thing I'd be fearful of and want to avoid - i.e. someone who thinks it's fair game to key a car because of a belief that the owner feels they're "special". I am already OCD enough about the car as it is that I worry about parking it far away from anyone where possible, etc.
I do think it looks better without it, and I do also think that certain cars - usually supercars - are somewhat unique in aesthetics that numberplates tend to look out of place on them. Different strokes for different folks though.
(As an aside I think the whole "supercar owners getting away with accidents!" thing is a bit overblown. Firstly I'm only talking about not having a front plate, usually the rear has a recess on most supercars, and secondly I think the actual incidences of supercar owners avoiding liability for accidents is vanishingly small)
KFC's attitude is the exactly sort of thing I'd be fearful of and want to avoid - i.e. someone who thinks it's fair game to key a car because of a belief that the owner feels they're "special". I am already OCD enough about the car as it is that I worry about parking it far away from anyone where possible, etc.
I do think it looks better without it, and I do also think that certain cars - usually supercars - are somewhat unique in aesthetics that numberplates tend to look out of place on them. Different strokes for different folks though.
(As an aside I think the whole "supercar owners getting away with accidents!" thing is a bit overblown. Firstly I'm only talking about not having a front plate, usually the rear has a recess on most supercars, and secondly I think the actual incidences of supercar owners avoiding liability for accidents is vanishingly small)
Edited by Durzel on Wednesday 29th July 13:23
Put the plate on, don't be a cock and run without. Just because you can afford a nice car doesn't mean that you're above the law. Having no plates bugs the crap out of me when I see it - there are usually two types of car you see it on (or rather don't :P), a chavved jap car or a supercar. If like you say you're precious about your car, don't give anyone the excuse to do anything to it.
And whilst keying a car is perhaps a tad OTT for a lack of plates, I can see where KFC is coming from!
And whilst keying a car is perhaps a tad OTT for a lack of plates, I can see where KFC is coming from!
KFC said:
Quickmoose said:
1. someone's stolen it.
2. someone's knocked it off
3. It did fall off and it is on the dashboard
None of those would be valid when the front bumper doesn't have any sort of screw holes or mounts to put the plate on in the first place. 2. someone's knocked it off
3. It did fall off and it is on the dashboard
thecremeegg said:
Put the plate on, don't be a cock and run without. Just because you can afford a nice car doesn't mean that you're above the law. Having no plates bugs the crap out of me when I see it - there are usually two types of car you see it on (or rather don't :P), a chavved jap car or a supercar. If like you say you're precious about your car, don't give anyone the excuse to do anything to it.
And whilst keying a car is perhaps a tad OTT for a lack of plates, I can see where KFC is coming from!
KFC...And whilst keying a car is perhaps a tad OTT for a lack of plates, I can see where KFC is coming from!
thecreamegg...
We seem to be trending foodie n0bs on this thread!!!!
Totally disagree that 'supercars' need front plates. Motorcylces don't do they?
Point being that if someone sees a red Ferrari or a white lambo doing something daft then its quite easy establish the car surely. If it were a blue ford focus then a lot harder to identify, so really the fact you stick out in such a car as a fezza or lambo is surely identity enough....458 front looks so much better with no front plate.
I have passed many police cars and not one has shown any interest at all, so I think most are pretty relaxed about it, dare say you may come across a jobs worth at some point or a jealous or miserably bobby at some point, but heyho we shall see
Point being that if someone sees a red Ferrari or a white lambo doing something daft then its quite easy establish the car surely. If it were a blue ford focus then a lot harder to identify, so really the fact you stick out in such a car as a fezza or lambo is surely identity enough....458 front looks so much better with no front plate.
I have passed many police cars and not one has shown any interest at all, so I think most are pretty relaxed about it, dare say you may come across a jobs worth at some point or a jealous or miserably bobby at some point, but heyho we shall see
Emonda03 said:
Totally disagree that 'supercars' need front plates. Motorcylces don't do they?
Point being that if someone sees a red Ferrari or a white lambo doing something daft then its quite easy establish the car surely. If it were a blue ford focus then a lot harder to identify, so really the fact you stick out in such a car as a fezza or lambo is surely identity enough....458 front looks so much better with no front plate.
I have passed many police cars and not one has shown any interest at all, so I think most are pretty relaxed about it, dare say you may come across a jobs worth at some point or a jealous or miserably bobby at some point, but heyho we shall see
Really? Jobs worth for enforcing the law? Where do you draw the line? I don't have a supercar but would it be acceptable when my M4 arrives to have it without a front plate because it looks better?Point being that if someone sees a red Ferrari or a white lambo doing something daft then its quite easy establish the car surely. If it were a blue ford focus then a lot harder to identify, so really the fact you stick out in such a car as a fezza or lambo is surely identity enough....458 front looks so much better with no front plate.
I have passed many police cars and not one has shown any interest at all, so I think most are pretty relaxed about it, dare say you may come across a jobs worth at some point or a jealous or miserably bobby at some point, but heyho we shall see
RossP said:
would it be acceptable when my M4 arrives to have it without a front plate because it looks better?
No because it's not a supercar... Just kidding lol...Yes it would be if you wanted to be cheeky and skirt the law, end of the day it's not as anti-social as keying someones car is it.
Tis the fun of forums - at the end of the day it's all a POV.
Our foodie named friends have weird views.
Overall, I like the police to enforce the law and require compliance. Not some vigilante or mob.
I had a new classic car keyed two days after i bought it, presumably as the person couldn't break the doors open, which they tried and damaged the handles.. It had front and rear number plates. Possibly it was just the colour they didn't like. Olive green. No doubt our foodie friends will think there was some justification there too!
It is most unfortunate in seeing this type of provocative drivel from people who hide behind anonymity. Says a lot about the validity of their views.
Overall, I like the police to enforce the law and require compliance. Not some vigilante or mob.
I had a new classic car keyed two days after i bought it, presumably as the person couldn't break the doors open, which they tried and damaged the handles.. It had front and rear number plates. Possibly it was just the colour they didn't like. Olive green. No doubt our foodie friends will think there was some justification there too!
It is most unfortunate in seeing this type of provocative drivel from people who hide behind anonymity. Says a lot about the validity of their views.
paulqv said:
Overall, I like the police to enforce the law and require compliance. Not some vigilante or mob.
And that just leads to someone getting their 15th Asbo or a fine paid back at 50 pence a week from their benefits anyway. That won't result in a behaviour change, when a punch in the mouth in the first place might have done the trick.Gassing Station | Supercar General | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff