RE: Ford GT: name not down? You're not coming in!

RE: Ford GT: name not down? You're not coming in!

Thursday 30th July 2015

Ford GT: name not down? You're not coming in!

Ford of Britain boss tells us that he's fighting for allocation of the forthcoming GT, but don't expect many



The new Ford GT won't be here until late next year but Ford is already plugging its forthcoming Ferrari-baiter. The concept that was unveiled at Detroit in January has been doing a tour of the UK, including being driven around London in a glass box on the back of a truck, and even got a swanky reception at the Royal Automobile Club HQ last night.

Win on Sunday, sell on Monday? No need!
Win on Sunday, sell on Monday? No need!
We went along to neck some free Champagne, and also to talk to Ford of Britain's newly appointed chairman and managing director, Andy Barratt, about it.

Let's start with the good news: some will be coming to the UK, and expressions of interest are being received. As of yesterday, that totalled 107. Less good is the fact that only tiny numbers are likely to come here; so if you're name's not down then this is one club that you're unlikely to be allowed into any time soon.

"I'm fighting very hard for allocation," Barratt told us, "when we produced the last GT there was a global run of around 4,000, of those 101 came to Europe and 28 were officially imported into the UK. This run is a lot lower, it's only 250 a year and we haven't declared the absolute run that we'll be doing, but you can imagine that the numbers are going to be a lot lower... Seven per cent of Ford's global sales are in the UK, so my argument is that I should get seven per cent of that."

28 of these officially imported to the UK
28 of these officially imported to the UK
To save you the maths, that would be 17.5 cars a year; let's round it up to 18. But still tiny numbers compared to the volumes sold by segment rivals in the UK. Informed speculation reckons the GT will be produced for either three or four years, meaning a global total of either 750 or 1,000 - and fewer than 100 coming to the UK, even on this best case scenario.

Barratt is determined to do all he can to keep speculators away from the car, insisting that the UK allocation will be prioritised towards those who have a history with Ford and who are planning to actually use their cars.

"We're nowhere near allocating cars yet, but when we do we'll definitely look for their history with Ford, whether they've done something with us in the past. Inevitably speculators will try to get onto the list, but we're looking for people who will love and cherish the car, but most of all drive it and enjoy it."

Drink it in - you won't see many!
Drink it in - you won't see many!
And some good news for scuzzy journos, too. "I want one on the press fleet so that you can all have a go," said Barratt, "and what I really want is to get one that we then keep in our heritage centre too. I had that car in a showroom in Leicester at the weekend and 600 people turned up to see it. As the guy who runs Ford of Britain I have a huge responsibility to keep the engine running, and a draw like that is enormous."

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Orange Rocket

Original Poster:

45 posts

129 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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The chances of me ever seeing one of these on the roads is exceedingly low but I would love to do so all the same; so pleased that UK allocation is being fought for!

That picture of the race version really should be Pic Of The Week this week...

Baryonyx

17,995 posts

159 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Ferrari baiter? There isn't a car that Ferrari make that I want more than the new Ford supercar...

k-ink

9,070 posts

179 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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So there are hardly any coming and they will only sell to Focus owners. Pretty niche

joe1145

198 posts

121 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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are the ones destined for the UK going to be LHD like the last one?

ewenm

28,506 posts

245 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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joe1145 said:
are the ones destined for the UK going to be LHD like the last one?
I'd assume so.

jamespink

1,218 posts

204 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Baryonyx said:
Ferrari baiter? There isn't a car that Ferrari make that I want more than the new Ford supercar...
Quite a statement!

epom

11,491 posts

161 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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jamespink said:
Baryonyx said:
Ferrari baiter? There isn't a car that Ferrari make that I want more than the new Ford supercar...
Quite a statement!
I'd probably take an F50 alright smile

vtecyo

2,122 posts

129 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Orange Rocket said:
That picture of the race version really should be Pic Of The Week this week...
The one that looks like a 360?

Blayney

2,948 posts

186 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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jamespink said:
Baryonyx said:
Ferrari baiter? There isn't a car that Ferrari make that I want more than the new Ford supercar...
Quite a statement!
Currently make?

California T
458
FF
F12
LaFer...

Yup I'd take the Ford too.

But over a 246 Dino or an F50? Nope.

Catatafish

1,361 posts

145 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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vtecyo said:
Orange Rocket said:
That picture of the race version really should be Pic Of The Week this week...
The one that looks like a 360?
lol What 360 has a rear nacelle for the wheel supported by a bar to the roof?

mackay45

832 posts

171 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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It would be absolutely criminal to not have one of these in the Heritage collection. They can borrow "FMC 1" off the Ford GT in there already and stick it on the new GT press car when it arrives.

Maybe he wants potential buyers to prove they are serious by speccing a Mk3 Focus RS and/or Mustang GT as optional extras with their Ford GT purchase?


hwajones

775 posts

181 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Ford Gt what??

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Not to worry, resident ph'r gregf40 has a firm order. I'm sure we will get the inside scoop soon enough.

unpc

2,835 posts

213 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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hwajones said:


Ford Gt what??
Nope. Would still take the Ford.

C7 JFW

1,205 posts

219 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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hwajones said:


Ford Gt what??
This, alas, is Ford's problem - their product needs to be truly completely, well, unlike a Ford.

Struggling to get allocation? They should be doing all they can to fly the flag on a halo product and driving one around in a glass box? The marketing department need to go out for a few more beers.

This could be a very exciting product, but they are going to have to give Chris Harris an entire lorry load of tyres to get the right levels of attention.

I have higher hopes for the Mustang but even higher hopes for the Focus RS.

Ford GT? Yeah ok.

Focus RS with All Wheel Drive that will be absolutely spanked on the streets of Essex in the real world - now we're talking the stuff of memories.

Baryonyx

17,995 posts

159 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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jamespink said:
Baryonyx said:
Ferrari baiter? There isn't a car that Ferrari make that I want more than the new Ford supercar...
Quite a statement!
Note I said 'make', not made! The current Ferrari lineup pales next to this thing, for me. However, next to say a 288 GTO? Well, that'd be a tougher call...

jamieduff1981

8,024 posts

140 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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C7 JFW said:
hwajones said:


Ford Gt what??
This, alas, is Ford's problem - their product needs to be truly completely, well, unlike a Ford.

Struggling to get allocation? They should be doing all they can to fly the flag on a halo product and driving one around in a glass box? The marketing department need to go out for a few more beers.

This could be a very exciting product, but they are going to have to give Chris Harris an entire lorry load of tyres to get the right levels of attention.

I have higher hopes for the Mustang but even higher hopes for the Focus RS.

Ford GT? Yeah ok.

Focus RS with All Wheel Drive that will be absolutely spanked on the streets of Essex in the real world - now we're talking the stuff of memories.
I think you're miles off the mark. These will sell.

Chris Harris declared the Alfa 4C inferior to the Cayman. The trouble with the obvious cars is that some people absolutely detest looking and feeling like they just bought what someone else told them to. Has Chris Harris' verdict hurt 4C residuals? Not a jot. Porsches are like whitegoods by comparison to a car that requires genuine passion to buy.

The last Ford GT is worth more now than a new 458 costs. This GT will appeal to wealthy individuals who simply don't care what you think and want the car because it's not a Ferrari.

JonoG81

384 posts

105 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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unpc said:
hwajones said:


Ford Gt what??
Nope. Would still take the Ford.
Agreed, that doesn't do anything for me personally

dvs_dave

8,612 posts

225 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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ewenm said:
joe1145 said:
are the ones destined for the UK going to be LHD like the last one?
I'd assume so.
This makes it completely pointless and impractical for the UK. I've cancelled my order as a result.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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jamieduff1981 said:
Has Chris Harris' verdict hurt 4C residuals? Not a jot.
It is not unusual for "failed" sportscars to achieve good residuals. It's a result of scarcity value which derives from a small number of interested enthusiasts chasing a very small number of used cars.

Renault Spyder Sport is one example. BMW Z1 is probably another. Also DeLorean. Maybe even Lotus Elan M100.

Obviously this phenomenon doesn't apply if the car was an ownership disaster. I'm struggling for examples but imagine the Jensen Healey would fit this category. Let's stick Panther Solo in there as well.