2009 manual V12 Vantage (Magma Red)

2009 manual V12 Vantage (Magma Red)

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nw28840

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985 posts

178 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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All,

Well after last looking at Rob/Molly's fettled VantageS that was for sale local to me.........

I have now switched my attention to our favourite dealer in the North and have enquired about the 2009 V12 Vantage on their website.
(Used to be called Keighley and now Motor-Hub)

  • * MODS i think it's ok to mention the name ? ***
It's only my second day sitting at home after a shoulder operation...and my plan of action to move to an auto/semi-auto car seems to have gone out the window !

First things first , this car has the carbon fibre lightweight seats. I'm 6 foot 4 inches tall so will i be comfortable ?
I remember reading a thread a while back about either those or the sports seats suited a taller person - but can't remember which.

Car was last serviced 11/10/2013 at Stratstone (previously had full up to date AM service history at AM Newport Pagnell).
Would i be able to put the car back under the AM warranty scheme if it passed a pre warranty inspection ? Even though the service history is no longer to schedule.

Car is based up near Leeds ? Can someone recommend an Independent or AM dealer that could do a thorough inspection for me on the car ?

I'm just thinking that if the car cannot go back under an AM warranty then there is no point in having the car inspected by AM.
I would be better using a reputable Independent in the area. Unfortunately I'm down in Berkshire so don't know the independents to use up North.


Any other thoughts appreciated ? Oh and what do you think the car is worth if it all checks out ?

I would be selling my 2008 V8 Vantage roadster privately, so it would be a cash purchase.

Cheers,
Nick

AMDBSNick

6,990 posts

161 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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They have had that for a long time.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=2&a...

Good luck


nw28840

Original Poster:

985 posts

178 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Yep , confirmed they've had the car over a year :

Service History is as follows :

PDI Check 3/12/2009
Car registered 9/12/2009
1st service - Newport Pagnell AM 8482 miles 08/10/2010
2nd service - Newport Pagnell 19036 miles 22/12/2011
3rd service - Newport Pagnell 26659 miles 21/11/2012
4th service - Stratstone - 32440 miles 11/10/2013 - anti corrosion

woodsypedia

870 posts

152 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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I think with a cash purchase there's lots of room to haggle. As others have mentioned, it's been up for a sale for a long time. I'm 6ft 2 and I've also got the Carbon seats and I have no problems. They're fixed back but adjust in many different ways so it's not difficult to get comfortable. I did Newcastle and back in a day from Sussex and had zero issues or back pain. I'm sure you'll get along fine with them. Regards the warranty, I'm sure if you took it to 666 in Leeds they'd be happy to help with the inspection etc. I've heard good reviews about them from other that have bought / serviced there.

Good luck and post some proper pictures when you get it smile

Chris.

Neil1300r

5,487 posts

177 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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AM dealers charge for a pre warranty inspection - if it passes they can sell you a warranty. Applies to all cars, even those renewing an annual warranty.

AMDBSNick

6,990 posts

161 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Nick,

A word of warning.

I purchased a 1 owner DB9V over the phone form AM Reading that had FMDSH. When they came to do the 140 inspection it got a third of the way through and they binned it. They called me to say the car would be going to auction as it would cost too much to correct and it duly did. On further investigation it seems no matter how many stamps you have in the book if the owner has ignored all of the "advisories" the FSH means nothing.

Be careful.

Nick

nw28840

Original Poster:

985 posts

178 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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OK , so AM will charge one hours labour or so and do an pre purchase inspection, but then i have to own the car for 3 months before they then do another pre warranty inspection and will then warranty the car for 12 months for a little over £2k.

I already had an initial conversation with the sellers, if the car checks out - and wasn't a hire car / tracked car or been damaged etc etc
then i think a deal can be done at sub £65k

But i want the inspection done at either an Independent facility or at a Main dealer facility and not at their place of sale - they have said they don't take cars out but that the inspection can be done at their place. That's a definite deal breaker for me.

Also , they have no paperwork of a clutch change on the car, the car has done 34k so it may be in need of one now.

I had my current car ( V8 Vantage Roadster) warranty extended the first couple of years after i bought it - the first year AM told me the clutch needed replacing soon - that was 3 years and 19,000 miles ago - and the clutch feels no different now !


wokkadriver

695 posts

241 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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AMDBSNick said:
Nick,

A word of warning.

I purchased a 1 owner DB9V over the phone form AM Reading that had FMDSH. When they came to do the 140 inspection it got a third of the way through and they binned it. They called me to say the car would be going to auction as it would cost too much to correct and it duly did. On further investigation it seems no matter how many stamps you have in the book if the owner has ignored all of the "advisories" the FSH means nothing.

Be careful.

Nick
Touché.

I remember seeing a red V12V for sale back in 2013 with a main dealer. I was so unimpressed with the presentation and general feel of the car that I discounted the model for pretty much 4 months. It was only when I tested a DBS back to back with a V12V at Works did I then change my mind.

Of course, it begs the question as to why this particular car has been for sale for so long - to the OP do make sure you look at several so you know what is good and what's not. I would never rely on anyone (especially a dealer) to tell me "they're all like that…"


Good Luck with your search!

AMDBSNick

6,990 posts

161 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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nw28840 said:
Also , they have no paperwork of a clutch change on the car, the car has done 34k so it may be in need of one now.
V12V Twin Plate clutch is a completely different proposition to V8 clutch. Should last much much longer

wokkadriver

695 posts

241 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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AMDBSNick said:
Nick,

A word of warning.

I purchased a 1 owner DB9V over the phone form AM Reading that had FMDSH. When they came to do the 140 inspection it got a third of the way through and they binned it. They called me to say the car would be going to auction as it would cost too much to correct and it duly did. On further investigation it seems no matter how many stamps you have in the book if the owner has ignored all of the "advisories" the FSH means nothing.

Be careful.

Nick
Touché.

I remember seeing a red V12V for sale back in 2013 with a main dealer. I was so unimpressed with the presentation and general feel of the car that I discounted the model for pretty much 4 months. It was only when I tested a DBS back to back with a V12V at Works did I then change my mind.

Of course, it begs the question as to why this particular car has been for sale for so long - to the OP do make sure you look at several so you know what is good and what's not. I would never rely on anyone (especially a dealer) to tell me "they're all like that…"


Good Luck with your search!

sukh_m

1,325 posts

191 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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I've not heard good things about motorhub and like everybody says its been there a while.

Where is the 2014 service?

Proceed with caution but I suppose at the right price it maybe worth it. Just bear in mind if you plan on selling later you may have to take a bit of a hit.........Good luck smile

nw28840

Original Poster:

985 posts

178 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Yep NO 2014 service.

Original AM Warranty was never renewed after December 2012.

Sketchy details on the 2013 service also - Stratstone Amersham don't have any details on file except the car having been there except that the fuel flap was fixed under warranty.

Spoke to Newport Pagnell who serviced the car the first 3 years and that all checks out ok. Couldn't provide any further details due to data protection.



nw28840

Original Poster:

985 posts

178 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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wokkadriver said:
Touché.

I remember seeing a red V12V for sale back in 2013 with a main dealer. I was so unimpressed with the presentation and general feel of the car that I discounted the model for pretty much 4 months. It was only when I tested a DBS back to back with a V12V at Works did I then change my mind.

Of course, it begs the question as to why this particular car has been for sale for so long - to the OP do make sure you look at several so you know what is good and what's not. I would never rely on anyone (especially a dealer) to tell me "they're all like that…"


Good Luck with your search!
Take a look at the pics , unusual interior - Does the car ring a bell ?

http://www.motor-hub.co.uk/used-cars/aston-martin-...

sukh_m

1,325 posts

191 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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nw28840 said:
Yep NO 2014 service.

Original AM Warranty was never renewed after December 2012.

Sketchy details on the 2013 service also - Stratstone Amersham don't have any details on file except the car having been there except that the fuel flap was fixed under warranty.

Spoke to Newport Pagnell who serviced the car the first 3 years and that all checks out ok. Couldn't provide any further details due to data protection.
Was the book stamped at Stratstone in 2013? BTW, if my memory serves me correctly, they actually had this car up for sale there. Was there a while then appeared at motorhub few months later. I'm sure it's the same car. If it was me, I would assume unless there was a stamp and service details that the 2013 service wasn't done.

You have probably missed the boat now due to it being summer but with this priced at 70k, there were a few AM dealer V12V's on around the 75k mark a few months back. I know I would spend the little bit extra and go with one of those than this one. Maybe if you waited a few months until Oct/Nov you could pick one up. Just my opinion wink

Cheers

AdamV12V

4,987 posts

176 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Lightweight bucket seats should be no problem for you at 6'4". Im 6'0" and there is tons of room if I wanted to put the seat further back. I would expect the Sports seats to be more restrictive for a really tall person like yourself.

As for somebody to check the car, then JCT600 are the only AM dealer in Leeds so must be the obvious choice.

As said above the car has been around unsold for a long time, so as long as you do your research and know what you are buying, haggle hard and you might be able to get a good deal. It is after one of the cheapest cars out there and prices don't seem to be dropping much, if at all these days.

Jon39

12,782 posts

142 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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When I read your post Nick, the saying came to my mind, 'you do pick 'em'.

At least you ask this forum first, so the warnings fly when appropriate.
It seems from one of the latest posts, that something about the car is known. Stand by.
I only knew about the dealer's internet 'fame'.


cayman-black

12,625 posts

215 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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£65k is a good price if car checks out.

JonV8V

7,175 posts

123 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Are you long in the back or long in the legs or just long. I'm 6'3" with a long back and the lightweights were no good for me. I usually incline the back to make headroom but as its a fixed angle to the base the front of the seat came up comically. If you're more leg you might be ok.

JohnPM

49 posts

123 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Seen a couple of posts saying Aston V12 pre 2010 can have little end issues, think there was also a post about works advising a prospective V12V owner to get a 2010 or later car but without explaining why. Haven't seen any 2009 V12V owners reporting problems though.

nw28840

Original Poster:

985 posts

178 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Thanks all for the replies.

Yeah i know i definitely pick 'em - but if it checks out and can be bought at the right price then it'll be worth it.

I've read horror stories re the dealer , I did see the two V12 Vantages for sale from Stratstone at +- mid £70k, but they were both pushing my budget a little too much.

I'm 6 foot 4" and long in the leg , so i think the car has the right seats for me.

I'm concerned about the last service, I need to find out some more details on whether it was actually done in 2013 - will follow up again with Stratstones Amersham tomorrow. As has previously been mentioned it may well be that the car was for sale there and no service was done on the car as it never sold. In that case i don't think I'm brave enough to buy the car - this will mean it won't have been serviced since 21/11/2012 when it had 26659 miles on the clock. It now has 34k on the clock.

Plan to use JCT for the inspection if i get that far - they have said they will talk to the warranty company that AM use for extended warranty and see if they will warranty the car after an inspection at the time I would purchase - rather than the no-claims in the first 3 months - which to me sounds silly if they are happy for the car to pass their inspection !

...and of course I like convertibles (loved my V8 Vantage Coupe, but love the Roadster more) and I didn't plan on buying another manual car.

BUT I'll ignore all that...it's a V12 Vantage smile and in my budget if it all checks out.



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Edited by nw28840 on Thursday 30th July 22:35