What they'll look like in 2017

What they'll look like in 2017

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Original Poster:

1,652 posts

146 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/video-what-f1-ca...

Interesting but not too sure on the sloping rear wing end plates, bit too much A1GP batmobile look about it, raked front wing looks OK as does the rear wing height and width

shalon

47 posts

149 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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It's like 07 with low wide back wings

Some Gump

12,671 posts

185 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Hate the way the ideas men think "lets make it all pointy". Looks nearly as ste as the indycar.

Wings still big, not convinced it's moving from upper surface to floor aero enough. Swoopy back front wing worst bit of the concept..

Smollet

10,465 posts

189 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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Has the idea of 17" rims been dropped?

Eric Mc

121,779 posts

264 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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Whenever I see these "What will F1 Look Like in X Years Time" pictures I always assume that they won't look much like the projections.

Way back in 1971 or so, I used to draw a book out of our local library called "Motor Racing, The International Way" which was, in effect, a review of the 1970 GP season. One of the articles was a projection of what F1 would be like by 1975. I always remember that the artist's impression of the cars looked nothing like how they actually ended up in 1975.

A few months ago I found the book again in a charity bookshop and am delighted to have it in my collection. I discovered that the article had been written by the great L J K Setright.


Some Gump

12,671 posts

185 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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Gaz. said:
The diffuser is enormous.
It is. However, the rear wing has also grown, and both wings are still multi element. I can't see how the restrictions implied by that vud are enough to stimie the efforts of the F1 aero engineers.

lbc

3,212 posts

216 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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Smollet said:
Has the idea of 17" rims been dropped?
I thought it was 18inch rims?

When Brundle tested 18inch rims on a a GP2 car he found visibility significantly reduced.

I think the mechanics will also struggle with tyre changes due to the extra weight of larger wheels.

martin-brundle-tests-pirellis-new-18-inch-tyres-on-a-gp2-car

Doink

Original Poster:

1,652 posts

146 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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But this rendering has been made with the measurements I assume from the FIA and the recent strategy meetings not something some reporter somewhere would like the cars to look like, OK design wise there will be many more tweeks but I believe the dimensions were supplied in order to produce this rendering

Esseesse

8,969 posts

207 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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Do we really want a bigger front wing/overhang?

Shame the rules are so tight that different teams will come up with broadly the same answers. Why not regulate wings on a max total surface area front and rear (maybe include diffuser surface area in here) to allow more freedom in designing where the wing should be.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

195 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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Eric Mc said:
Whenever I see these "What will F1 Look Like in X Years Time" pictures I always assume that they won't look much like the projections.

Way back in 1971 or so, I used to draw a book out of our local library called "Motor Racing, The International Way" which was, in effect, a review of the 1970 GP season. One of the articles was a projection of what F1 would be like by 1975. I always remember that the artist's impression of the cars looked nothing like how they actually ended up in 1975.

A few months ago I found the book again in a charity bookshop and am delighted to have it in my collection. I discovered that the article had been written by the great L J K Setright.

Any chance of posting up a pic of the predictions Eric?

GroundEffect

13,819 posts

155 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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This is all just conjecture.

tight fart

2,868 posts

272 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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GroundEffect said:
This is all just conjecture.
Well spotted

Eric Mc

121,779 posts

264 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Any chance of posting up a pic of the predictions Eric?
Pictures as requested -






LDN

8,905 posts

202 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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Eric Mc said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Any chance of posting up a pic of the predictions Eric?
Pictures as requested -





Nice!

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

223 months

Monday 3rd August 2015
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lbc said:
Smollet said:
Has the idea of 17" rims been dropped?
I thought it was 18inch rims?

When Brundle tested 18inch rims on a a GP2 car he found visibility significantly reduced.

I think the mechanics will also struggle with tyre changes due to the extra weight of larger wheels.

martin-brundle-tests-pirellis-new-18-inch-tyres-on-a-gp2-car
Yea they look ridiculous. The cars should definitely go back to overall 1992 proportions, width etc, whilst incorporating current safety regs. This includes 18 inch wide rear tyres. Whoever signed of using 15 inch wide tyres for 1993 wants shooting, why would you make the cars purposely less dramatic looking.

Vaud

50,289 posts

154 months

Monday 3rd August 2015
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Interesting that from the 2 "future looking", one saw a straight extrapolation of the cars of the time, and the other saw much more of an aero driven future (and interestingly, 4WD)

RobGT81

5,227 posts

185 months

Monday 3rd August 2015
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lbc said:
I think the mechanics will also struggle with tyre changes due to the extra weight of larger wheels.
The LMP1 mechanics don't seem to have any issues, girly F1 mechanics.

Eric Mc

121,779 posts

264 months

Monday 3rd August 2015
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Vaud said:
Interesting that from the 2 "future looking", one saw a straight extrapolation of the cars of the time, and the other saw much more of an aero driven future (and interestingly, 4WD)
Four wheel drive had been tried in 1969/70 and could possibly have been more popular had not the advent of downforce produced increased grip with less complexity and weight.
Looking at the future from 1970, four wheel drive might have seemed a viable technology for F1.

angrymoby

2,605 posts

177 months

Monday 3rd August 2015
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lbc said:
I thought it was 18inch rims?

When Brundle tested 18inch rims on a a GP2 car he found visibility significantly reduced.

I think the mechanics will also struggle with tyre changes due to the extra weight of larger wheels.

martin-brundle-tests-pirellis-new-18-inch-tyres-on-a-gp2-car
he doesn't say why he struggled tho'? because aren't they supposed to be the same size/rolling radius as 13's?

angrymoby

2,605 posts

177 months

Monday 3rd August 2015
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Eric Mc said:
Four wheel drive had been tried in 1969/70 and could possibly have been more popular had not the advent of downforce produced increased grip with less complexity and weight.
Looking at the future from 1970, four wheel drive might have seemed a viable technology for F1.
they'd probably be using it now if it hadn't of been banned