Good deal on a used R1, but...
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So my BMW K1200R is up for sale to clear a little money for a mortgage.
In the meantime i have been looking for something cheaper, around £2k to go on the occasional trackday and ride out. I've been mainly looking at older 600's, but yesterday a friend offered me his 2005 R1 (under seat exhaust model) with 18k miles for around £2k, a bargain right?
Only catch is, that it's been sat idle for 3-4 years without starting, albeit under a cover in a garage. Therefore it hasn't got an MOT although i know it's history and know it's mostly sound, and that's not so bad.
What bothers me is returning it to use after such a time. What am i looking at? Fuel drain, tank clean, battery change, tyre change, etc. Anything else i should take into account?
Is this still sounding a good deal?
Thanks in advance
In the meantime i have been looking for something cheaper, around £2k to go on the occasional trackday and ride out. I've been mainly looking at older 600's, but yesterday a friend offered me his 2005 R1 (under seat exhaust model) with 18k miles for around £2k, a bargain right?
Only catch is, that it's been sat idle for 3-4 years without starting, albeit under a cover in a garage. Therefore it hasn't got an MOT although i know it's history and know it's mostly sound, and that's not so bad.
What bothers me is returning it to use after such a time. What am i looking at? Fuel drain, tank clean, battery change, tyre change, etc. Anything else i should take into account?
Is this still sounding a good deal?
Thanks in advance
Edited by Pebbles167 on Saturday 1st August 09:46
drain + replenish the fuel
drain + replenish the oil + filter
Maybe look at plugs, clean air filter etc
Check tires / pump up / replace if perrished or flat spotted badly
Lube chain if it looks dry
Try start / new battery / recharge
give it an Italian tune (thrash it around and check the brakes)
Clean
MOT
Enjoy
drain + replenish the oil + filter
Maybe look at plugs, clean air filter etc
Check tires / pump up / replace if perrished or flat spotted badly
Lube chain if it looks dry
Try start / new battery / recharge
give it an Italian tune (thrash it around and check the brakes)
Clean
MOT
Enjoy
As an aside, I'd just bought my last ST13 and then I remortgaged the house and it worked out cheaper to add the bike's loan to the mortgage and pay it off... over the term of the mortgage I paid less interest (on the bike's portion) than I would have on the original loan!
Not sure if mortgages can be had that cheaply now...
Not sure if mortgages can be had that cheaply now...
About a month ago I sold my faithfull Speed Triple to a good friend of mine. The bike had been sat in a garage, under a cover, for nearly 8 years.
I told my friend about all the potential technical issues he might have to deal with to make it road-worthy once again and we agreed on a discounted price.
He took the bike to an official Triumph dealer where they performed a regular service and of course, replaced the battery. It cost him ca. £300 and he has now clocked a little over 500 miles. The bike runs perfectly.
I was surprised (not to say shocked) that they did not recommend to change the tyres. I told my friend that he had had a nice bargain and should invest into a pair of new hoops.
Based on that story I would imagine/hope that you should not have too many issues with your R1.
I told my friend about all the potential technical issues he might have to deal with to make it road-worthy once again and we agreed on a discounted price.
He took the bike to an official Triumph dealer where they performed a regular service and of course, replaced the battery. It cost him ca. £300 and he has now clocked a little over 500 miles. The bike runs perfectly.
I was surprised (not to say shocked) that they did not recommend to change the tyres. I told my friend that he had had a nice bargain and should invest into a pair of new hoops.
Based on that story I would imagine/hope that you should not have too many issues with your R1.
Battery, fuel, ride. I'm sure some people would ride so little a set of tyres can be on for 5 years!
A mate bought a fireblade recently, barely been used in 8 years iirc. Put a new rear tyre on the day he bought it with a fresh mot and voila, 500+ miles later after going to Pembrokeshire he was home 2 days later.
A mate bought a fireblade recently, barely been used in 8 years iirc. Put a new rear tyre on the day he bought it with a fresh mot and voila, 500+ miles later after going to Pembrokeshire he was home 2 days later.
Reardy Mister said:
I have heard that's its worth turning the motor over with a drop of oil in each chamber so that the bores don't score on start up, as they will be bone dry? Is this an olde wives tale?
I'd agree and go a bit further. Remove the plugs and pour a couple of cc of oil into the bore. Let it sit a while so it finds its way into the ring lands.
Change all the fluids, Oil, water, fuel and then turnover for a while with the plugs removed. This allows the oil pump to pump oil up to the head and get everything nicely oiled before starting.
The problem with sitting so long is the oil can drain away and what's left trapped can 'sour' over time. Then pop the plugs in and start it up.
Run it for 100 miles and change the oil again.
Reardy Mister said:
I have heard that's its worth turning the motor over with a drop of oil in each chamber so that the bores don't score on start up, as they will be bone dry? Is this an olde wives tale?
I had heard the same thing, with horror stories about engines seizing completely. That's why I was concerned when I sold my bike. Guess we were lucky then.I guess... if giving it a full service before start up you could swap the plugs out or inspect them and drop a tiny bit of engine oil down the cylinder.
let it sit...
Then maybe put it on a stand stick it in gear and turn the engine over by hand. You could even pull the coils off the plugs and thumb the starter and get oil pressure and revolution of the crank.
Then maybe follow this up with a rendition of the Gruffalo. However you're going to have to do all the voices for the Mouse, Fox, Owl and snake etc..
After this she will start up and allow you into the fast group at your local track day. Just remember to get fresh tyres.
let it sit...
Then maybe put it on a stand stick it in gear and turn the engine over by hand. You could even pull the coils off the plugs and thumb the starter and get oil pressure and revolution of the crank.
Then maybe follow this up with a rendition of the Gruffalo. However you're going to have to do all the voices for the Mouse, Fox, Owl and snake etc..
After this she will start up and allow you into the fast group at your local track day. Just remember to get fresh tyres.
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