Fake Britain

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Cooperman

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4,428 posts

250 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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Did anyone see the episode of 'Fake Britain' on BBC1 recently when truck tachos were being discussed.
To show how tacho records were being 'faked' they drove a large truck without a trailer at 100 mph with a police driver and a marked car on 'blues & twos' in front. The dual carriageway was not sealed and other vehicles were being overtaken at those speeds.
Now one might wonder whether the speed rating of truck tyres covers speeds of 100 mph sustained on a dry road and whether it was, in fact, quite dangerous. Would you like to do 100 mph in a truck on standard truck tyres, or even be overtaken by one? It appeared very irresponsible really, unless there is going to be a truck tyre expert along to tell us what the max. sustained speed rating of a truck tyre is.

Greendubber

13,206 posts

203 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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I saw it and couldnt care less to be honest.

It was at 100 for a very short period of time before they slowed down.

Puddenchucker

4,088 posts

218 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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Truck tyres typically have a max speed rating of 120-130kph (75-80mph), but that will be for a fully loaded truck travelling at that speed for long distances. I doubt very much that a, relatively light, tractor unit only travelling at 100mph for a few miles would over stress the tyres.

ging84

8,897 posts

146 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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For fk sake, you life must be so perfect if you need to go around inventing things to be annoyed about like this

bobtail4x4

3,716 posts

109 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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in the US its common to be passed by fully loaded artics doing well over 100mph

Jim1556

1,771 posts

156 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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bobtail4x4 said:
in the US its common to be passed by fully loaded artics doing well over 100kph
Edited for accuracy! wink

justanother5tar

1,314 posts

125 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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Ive been shown a clean pair of tail lights by a trailer-less tractor unit before. He was a right smug bd about it, too. laugh

Roo

11,503 posts

207 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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Jim1556 said:
bobtail4x4 said:
in the US its common to be passed by fully loaded artics doing well over 100kph
Edited for accuracy! wink
Errrm.
Try again.

ruggedscotty

5,626 posts

209 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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Trucks in the states - 100 120 mph isnt that far off to tell you the truth - tractor units are pretty capable out there - no limiters and no tachographs....

Ive been passed while doing 80 on cruise by tractor trailors....

bobtail4x4

3,716 posts

109 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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same here, I was doing well over 80 MPH when one passed me last month.

Nickyboy

6,700 posts

234 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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Trucks in the US routinely travel at 70-80mph, it's rare to find them doing much more other than getting a run down a hill before a climb the other side. They still complain about fuel prices despite diesel being around £2 a gallon. A truck doing 100mph will be pushing 1 or 2 mpg, operators just can't afford that kind of economy.

Shaw Tarse

31,543 posts

203 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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Driver101

14,376 posts

121 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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It's scary in the states when you've got those huge lorries speeding past you on all sides.

Feels like the film Duel on occasions.

Nickyboy

6,700 posts

234 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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yes

MidnightXR6

813 posts

169 months

Sunday 2nd August 2015
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Out in Louisiana and Texas 70mph seems to be the norm. Have been sitting behind some at 80 but its very rare.

All that jazz

7,632 posts

146 months

Sunday 2nd August 2015
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Cooperman said:
Did anyone see the episode of 'Fake Britain' on BBC1 recently when truck tachos were being discussed.
To show how tacho records were being 'faked' they drove a large truck without a trailer at 100 mph with a police driver and a marked car on 'blues & twos' in front. The dual carriageway was not sealed and other vehicles were being overtaken at those speeds.
Now one might wonder whether the speed rating of truck tyres covers speeds of 100 mph sustained on a dry road and whether it was, in fact, quite dangerous. Would you like to do 100 mph in a truck on standard truck tyres, or even be overtaken by one? It appeared very irresponsible really, unless there is going to be a truck tyre expert along to tell us what the max. sustained speed rating of a truck tyre is.
Are you sure this was 100mph and not 100kmh? I'd be surprised if a European spec truck would be able to do that speed due to the gearing. If I let mine overrun down a hill in top gear, the revs are already at 2500 at only 70mph. Trucks are generally out of puff by 3000 revs max when accelerating.

Nickyboy

6,700 posts

234 months

Sunday 2nd August 2015
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All that jazz said:
Are you sure this was 100mph and not 100kmh? I'd be surprised if a European spec truck would be able to do that speed due to the gearing. If I let mine overrun down a hill in top gear, the revs are already at 2500 at only 70mph. Trucks are generally out of puff by 3000 revs max when accelerating.
100kph is 62mph. My 4.5l truck can do that with no effort, well it would if it wasn't limited.

The truck used was a 16l Scania, even with gearing it can push 100mph with little effort. Most fleet trucks will be limited by gearing to 80-85mph but the big boys if unreigned can top 100.

All that jazz

7,632 posts

146 months

Sunday 2nd August 2015
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Nickyboy said:
Most fleet trucks will be limited by gearing to 80-85mph but the big boys if unreigned can top 100.
confused

Explain please. "Unreigned" how?

rohrl

8,737 posts

145 months

Sunday 2nd August 2015
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I followed an unladen flatbed artic along the M4 and down the A34 at speeds approaching 90mph about five years ago. I called it in in to the police at the time because the driver was going hell for leather and it obviously wasn't safe because no-one expects a lorry to be doing those kind of speeds. I also suspected that the vehicle or trailer might be stolen.

All that jazz

7,632 posts

146 months

Sunday 2nd August 2015
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rohrl said:
I followed an unladen flatbed artic along the M4 and down the A34 at speeds approaching 90mph about five years ago. I called it in in to the police at the time because the driver was going hell for leather and it obviously wasn't safe because no-one expects a lorry to be doing those kind of speeds.
rofl