Should people who crash be punished more
Discussion
In this country it seems accepted often that a crash is sufficient punishment and drivers often face no recupursions other than insurance costs etc.
But then you look at the chaos these muppets cause on the road network. In the summer it multiplies as people who should not go near our motorways do, and promptly crash into each other. Usually on a Friday afternoon.
Should there be a much harsher punishment for those involved?
There's an argument that some will make that the innocent party should not be punished, but in reality very few accidents can't be avoided by good observant driving.
But then you look at the chaos these muppets cause on the road network. In the summer it multiplies as people who should not go near our motorways do, and promptly crash into each other. Usually on a Friday afternoon.
Should there be a much harsher punishment for those involved?
There's an argument that some will make that the innocent party should not be punished, but in reality very few accidents can't be avoided by good observant driving.
It's the kind of thing I'd agree with, until it was me doing the crashing.
People make mistakes, sure you can lessen your chance of having an accident, but you can't eliminate it. Human error happens. Provided that they don't hurt anyone, and the cause wasn't overly negligent, then i don't think they should.
I agree that it sucks sitting in traffic, only to see some moron caused it because of carelessness.
People make mistakes, sure you can lessen your chance of having an accident, but you can't eliminate it. Human error happens. Provided that they don't hurt anyone, and the cause wasn't overly negligent, then i don't think they should.
I agree that it sucks sitting in traffic, only to see some moron caused it because of carelessness.
As above depends on tha crash, but tailgating, phone use, just being a general cock, bans and retests should be given.
I drive a lorry so don't think im car bashing lorries should fall in line and the same apply if not worse as were in charge of 44t.
I have little time and sympathy for people that have no time to think about there actions and what could go wrong.
Lorry crashes the out comes have been published far and wide,m so why on fri on the M6 north was everyone travelling with not a hope in hells chance of stopping.
Car drivers darting down the outside lane and then last minute cutting in front of a truck to get there 2 minutes earlier, they d be getting a retest.
I drive a lorry so don't think im car bashing lorries should fall in line and the same apply if not worse as were in charge of 44t.
I have little time and sympathy for people that have no time to think about there actions and what could go wrong.
Lorry crashes the out comes have been published far and wide,m so why on fri on the M6 north was everyone travelling with not a hope in hells chance of stopping.
Car drivers darting down the outside lane and then last minute cutting in front of a truck to get there 2 minutes earlier, they d be getting a retest.
Seems there are still way too many folk who don't see the harm in using their phones, or being overly aggressive in their driving, so maybe we should concentrate on sorting those out first? There was a post on here last year, along the lines of ''I'm more than capable of driving and using my phone'', as if the laws only need apply to others. It's attitudes like that which need to be addressed first. Accidents happen, but it's the reasons behind them that should dictate the punishment, if indeed there needs to be one.
e21Mark said:
Seems there are still way too many folk who don't see the harm in using their phones, or being overly aggressive in their driving, so maybe we should concentrate on sorting those out first? There was a post on here last year, along the lines of ''I'm more than capable of driving and using my phone'', as if the laws only need apply to others. It's attitudes like that which need to be addressed first. Accidents happen, but it's the reasons behind them that should dictate the punishment, if indeed there needs to be one.
Phones are a thorny issue, but at present more and more bits of the car are designed around our smartphones. Legislation really should catch up, along with manufacturers making systems that allow the use of the handset to do so legally with a holder.But it's not a phone call that causes the crash. It's the driver not paying attention.
Yes beyond doubt. I think a mandatory 6 points and £250 fine would be a good starting place. The fact of the matter is if you crash you deserve to be punished. As it stands no one learns anything from crashing as there insurance will sort it al out and they will just have to pay a little more the next year in insurance.
If i can drive a couple hundred thousand miles without crashing and I am not the brightest then others should be able to do the same. I have always been utterly baffled by people crashing on motorways. Is it really that hard to drive on a wide open piece of road without running into the objects around you???
If i can drive a couple hundred thousand miles without crashing and I am not the brightest then others should be able to do the same. I have always been utterly baffled by people crashing on motorways. Is it really that hard to drive on a wide open piece of road without running into the objects around you???
jimmybobby said:
It has nothing to do with chance and everything to do with stupidity and careless driving.
I was watching an old "Motorway Cops" on tv earlier.The stupid and careless driver caused a crash on a motorway but as he didn't crash into anything just carried on,
leaving carnage behind him.
Funk said:
Pebbles167 said:
..negligent...
That's the crux of it for me - I think wilful negligence or carelessness should have repercussions.This is a silly thread. People make mistakes. Perhaps the OP will make a mistake in his driving worse than his spelling error and feel a bit silly for paying this.
surveyor said:
in reality very few accidents can't be avoided by good observant driving.
what an utter pile of self righteous idealistic bulls
t. Somebody involved in the "accident" might well have made an error of judgement, but it is also just as likely that one of the parties involved is totally blameless.
The law as it stands does punish those determined to have driven: without due care and attention, dangerously etc etc That's quite sufficient.
Anyone who thinks all accidents can be avoided by careful driving clearly hasn't been on the receiving end of some unpredictable event.
Seriously?! It's called an accident for a reason. Perhaps you should punish for people tripping over, perhaps you should punish someone for spilling a drink, after all, it may cause you some inconvenience.
It's part of human nature to make mistakes, until we have computer controlled cars accidents will happen and insurance will continue to compensate.
It's part of human nature to make mistakes, until we have computer controlled cars accidents will happen and insurance will continue to compensate.
surveyor said:
In this country it seems accepted often that a crash is sufficient punishment and drivers often face no recupursions other than insurance costs etc.
But then you look at the chaos these muppets cause on the road network. In the summer it multiplies as people who should not go near our motorways do, and promptly crash into each other. Usually on a Friday afternoon.
Should there be a much harsher punishment for those involved?
There's an argument that some will make that the innocent party should not be punished, but in reality very few accidents can't be avoided by good observant driving.
But then you look at the chaos these muppets cause on the road network. In the summer it multiplies as people who should not go near our motorways do, and promptly crash into each other. Usually on a Friday afternoon.
Should there be a much harsher punishment for those involved?
There's an argument that some will make that the innocent party should not be punished, but in reality very few accidents can't be avoided by good observant driving.
0000 said:
Well that was a convincing argument.
Ok, all crashes can be predetermined. Just pass the algorithm over to the police and we'll fix road safety for everyone.
Much with many other road safety initiatives what is needed is a penalty that can result in loss of license for consistent poor driving habits. 6 Points on a persons license and a hefty fine will wake them up somewhat sharpish as a second crash within 3 years will result in a ban.Ok, all crashes can be predetermined. Just pass the algorithm over to the police and we'll fix road safety for everyone.
That frankly is a less sever punishment than for drink driving yet the results of accidents caused by poor driving can have exactly the same after effect.
rlg43p said:
surveyor said:
in reality very few accidents can't be avoided by good observant driving.
what an utter pile of self righteous idealistic bullst. Somebody involved in the "accident" might well have made an error of judgement, but it is also just as likely that one of the parties involved is totally blameless.
The law as it stands does punish those determined to have driven: without due care and attention, dangerously etc etc That's quite sufficient.
Anyone who thinks all accidents can be avoided by careful driving clearly hasn't been on the receiving end of some unpredictable event.
No accident is utterly unpredictable. In almost all cases one party or both is going to be responsible. The question is one of how bad and how foreseeable. I have come across many situations where my watching the behaviour of those around me has led me to be able to avoid their stupidity and stop an accident from happening.
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