2.9 V6 Engine Rebuild

2.9 V6 Engine Rebuild

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AndrewS2

Original Poster:

334 posts

164 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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Hi all,

As Richard continues with the chassis, my attention is on the engine. Today I've removed the heads - pictures below. Looks a bit manky...but this is the first time I've ever removed a cylinder head so don't have a lot to compare it to!!

Looking for recommendations of what to do now and how far to go now. I wanted to renew all the seals and gaskets, including the head gasket and inlet manifold gasket which had a small leak. I was intending on just cleaning and painting, but now I have it so much apart, is it worth deconstructing any further or parts to specialists to be refurbished? I'm thinking the heads themselves, pistons, bores etc? There were no major issues when I started the rebuild apart from the oil leak.

I'm in the north west - if anyone has experience of using companies for this kind of rebuild it or advice as to what you did and didn't do that would be great!

Cheers,

Andrew










phillpot

17,114 posts

183 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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Leave well alone,I wouldn't take pistons out, disturb bearings etc. unnecessary.

Just a good old fashioned "de-coke" pop the valves out and lap then back in imho. smile

AndrewS2

Original Poster:

334 posts

164 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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Should probably have just emailed you again Mike wink

De-coking...best method? Read on internet and oven cleaner seems to be a common choice but seems to be a lot of cautions about the alloy on the heads? Is it more advisable to just soak in a degreaser overnight and some elbow grease with a pad? I also have some carb cleaner in the cupboard as an option?

Cheers smile

phillpot

17,114 posts

183 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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Heads aren't alloy but pistons are! I wouldn't want any dodgey chemicals going down the side of the pistons.

Scraper (old wood work chisel) and rotary wire brushes are your friends.



Valves should be kept in order and put back in same hole they came out of, do you know how to grind valves in?

AndrewS2

Original Poster:

334 posts

164 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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phillpot said:
do you know how to grind valves in?
Oh yes of course I d...........on't!!

paperbag

I fear my bar bill is getting quite large Mike.... Not sure I'd ever get this project done if it wasn't for your advice - thanks as always!!

Boosted LS1

21,183 posts

260 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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That looks like a nice healthy engine. I wouldn't even scrub the carbon off the pistons unless it's easy. Heads and valves look good to. You could lap the valves in or ask a friend to do it but if nobody can help then just stick it back together.

Stew Mc

401 posts

173 months

Sunday 2nd August 2015
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phillpot said:
Leave well alone,I wouldn't take pistons out, disturb bearings etc. unnecessary.

Just a good old fashioned "de-coke" pop the valves out and lap then back in imho. smile
Wise words indeed.

v8s4me

7,240 posts

219 months

Sunday 2nd August 2015
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Stew Mc said:
phillpot said:
..Leave well alone,I wouldn't take pistons out, disturb bearings etc. unnecessary.

Just a good old fashioned "de-coke" pop the valves out and lap then back in imho. smile
Wise words indeed.
Second that. Looks like a text-book example of an engine that's running really well, so if it aint broke don't fix it.

The only thing I'd add, and it's not been mentioned so far because it's stating the bloody obvious/teaching Grandmas' to suck eggs, but anyway, remember to re-new the valve stem oil seals.And maybe check the valve spring lengths are all the same. Keep these in the same order as well.

Alan Whitaker

2,054 posts

182 months

Sunday 2nd August 2015
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Hi
Has the engine been stood for a bit, second picture of the bore, is that rust on there

Alan

AndrewS2

Original Poster:

334 posts

164 months

Monday 3rd August 2015
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Thanks all - wise words of advice.

Alan - the car's been off the road almost 2 years now. I had a close look today and there is a small amount of discolouration, but the surface is extremely smooth to the touch so don't think it should be a problem?

Andrew

Kitchski

6,515 posts

231 months

Monday 3rd August 2015
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Leave the carbon on the piston Andrew, it'll bump up the compression a bit hehe

AndrewS2

Original Poster:

334 posts

164 months

Sunday 8th November 2015
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Heads have been refurbished by Redmond Engine Centre in Fleetwood - great guys to deal with and have done a cracking job. Decided all this lapping the valves back in etc. was best left to the professionals, so they've done all that and given them a good overhaul.

Got them back on saturday, so been in the garage all day today...wait for it... REASSEMBLING, woohoo

Man it feels good to finally put something back together... Very pleased, and I think my new rocker covers set the whole thing off very nicely....!

All in all...progress. Rich making good progress with chassis, trailing arms etc. etc. so should hopefully be reassembling even more very soon!

Andrew








Mr Plow

1,193 posts

228 months

Sunday 8th November 2015
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VERY nice.

Bet you can't wait to get it back together smile

TurboTony

908 posts

171 months

Sunday 8th November 2015
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Andrew

That looks fabulous. I would keep it in the lounge until the chassis is ready!

Look forward to seeing the car on the road.

Cheers
Tony

AutoAndy

2,265 posts

215 months

Sunday 8th November 2015
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A thing of simple yet purposeful beauty .....looking good Andrew

mk1fan

10,516 posts

225 months

Sunday 8th November 2015
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I'm assuming you realise the need for a modified alternator bracket to go with those rocker covers.

Looks good BTW.

AndrewS2

Original Poster:

334 posts

164 months

Sunday 8th November 2015
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mk1fan said:
I'm assuming you realise the need for a modified alternator bracket to go with those rocker covers.

Looks good BTW.
Yes - Rich from Southways is on the case thanks! smile


TVRHasgo

108 posts

105 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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Hi Andrew

Great job - When do you hope to have the finished car back on the road?
I also bought some rocker covers from JR Casting (I assume that's where yours came from too) a couple of months back and an likewise chuffed to nuts with them.

Where did you get the 'shiny' air ducting from please and did you look for the original black option and if so did you find a source for that?

Cheers Martin


AndrewS2

Original Poster:

334 posts

164 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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Hi Martin,

Thanks! Hoping to be back on the road in 12-18 months if all goes to plan!

WRT the air ducting - I've got from car builder solutions, however, don't get it! It's much flimsier than I was expecting (it was only cheap) and Richard from Southways (doing my chassis!) has advised it will last 5 minutes once on the road.

As much more robust alternative, Richard has suggested these guys - and using a combination of silicone hose and alloy pipe. I decided not to try and get what i need until I have it back on the car so I can see the angle etc. that I will need to make it up.

Richard has used for his 2.8 - picture here: clicky

Supplier website is here: clicky

Cheers,

Andrew

glenrobbo

35,213 posts

150 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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This is the twin-walled wire reinforced silicon ducting hose I fitted to my S1 to replace the rather shabby original. Excellent robust hose, it's been on for well over 3 years now.

It was supplied by ASH, same as Richard ( Kitchski )'s recommendation

I chose the blue with orange inner wall, they also supply it in black.