Admission of negligence

[sebulban]

Had a blow out on the motorway yesterday only a MONTH after the OP dealer fitted 4 new michelins to my Cayman S......

Recovery guy advised me the 4 wheel alignment was not done. This caused the rear tyres to fray down to the wire only on the inside.... resulting in a chasm in the one that went!!!

OP dealer that it was recovered into confirmed this and advised the other tyre was "days away" from a blow out!!!

I await Porsche head office comments. But I have the AA report, images, OP centre's written confirmation & images PLUS the original OP centre who supplied the tyres covering ALL costs of this repair!!!!

I would like think I have a reasonable case for legal action here with an admission of liability?

Imagine if both went at the same time and I span into a truck or something..... or if I was on the track doing 150mph+ and both went!!! My lord!!!!

[sebulban]

[sebulban]

[sidicks]

sebulban said:

Had a blow out on the motorway yesterday only a MONTH after the OP dealer fitted 4 new michelins to my Cayman S......

Recovery guy advised me the 4 wheel alignment was not done. This caused the rear tyres to fray down to the wire only on the inside.... resulting in a chasm in the one that went!!!

OP dealer that it was recovered into confirmed this and advised the other tyre was "days away" from a blow out!!!

I await Porsche head office comments. But I have the AA report, images, OP centre's written confirmation & images PLUS the original OP centre who supplied the tyres covering ALL costs of this repair!!!!

I would like think I have a reasonable case for legal action here with an admission of liability?

How many miles have you done in the month since the tyres were fitted? It's hard to see, but the pictures seem to show tyres that have done many thousands of miles and even the outer edges appear very worn.

[Evolved]

A four wheel alignment isn't required when you just fit tyres and judging by those pics something was obv way off before otherwise your other tyres would have been equally as bad.


Looking at those tyres, they don't look nearly new either.

[sidicks]

Evolved said:

A four wheel alignment isn't required when you just fit tyres and judging by those pics something was obv way off before otherwise your other tyres would have been equally as bad.


Looking at those tyres, they don't look nearly new either.

Exactly my point!

[sebulban]

They are simply dirty. If you look at the tread gauge its virtually untouched! they were only fitted a month ago as said and done a few hundred miles. Car was fully serviced and warranted in may too.

Dealer has already admitted the wheel alignment, balancing and geometry was not carried out correctly.

[sidicks]

sebulban said:

They are simply dirty. If you look at the tread gauge its virtually untouched! they were only fitted a month ago as said and done a few hundred miles. Car was fully serviced and warranted in may too.

Dealer has already admitted the wheel alignment, balancing and geometry was not carried out correctly.

You can barely see any grooves!

[sebulban]

Heres what dealer took with cleaned up a bit

[Evolved]

The tread gauge is untouched because it is the lower limit of whats allowed.

The alignment work still isn't required for simply fitting tyres, was other work carried out on the suspension?

[sebulban]

[sebulban]

[Evolved]

They still don't look like month old tyres even with the odd wear, the outer edges look like they've done 1000's of miles.

Something isn't adding up here, confused.

[sebulban]

If people cannot see those tyres on the outside are brand new.... as they are. And on the inside are a mess. Then maybe I'm not posting in the right place haha!

There was no other work required. It was simply in to have 4 tyres replaced. The service had been passed with no issues. Also warranty put back on after 111 point check.

The liability is not in dispute as both tyres being replaced at full cost to the dealer. I imagine a simple "we don't know whats happened in the month between now and then" is an easy cop out and they haven't said that.

[sidicks]

This is the tread on my Cup2 tyre after a few thousand miles.



I think Cup2 tyres only start with 6mm rather than 8mm too!

[GaryF]

As already noted, when just fitting new tyres, I've never had to have a wheel alignment done. If the previous set were borked with evident uneven wear, then yes, a full alignment should also have been done as well.

No major harm done thankfully for you.

[sebulban]

Evolved said:

They still don't look like month old tyres even with the odd wear, the outer edges look like they've done 1000's of miles.

Something isn't adding up here, confused.

To me, a layman, they look new on the outside. As they did to the naked eye. As they are. After an accident I can understand they are dirty in my pictures. But dealer ones showed them better.

AA guy AND Porsche engineer have confirmed the "issue."

I feel like I'm being accused of trying to dibble something here haaha!

[Evolved]

Yes they do have a lower tread depth, I actually thought it was lower that 6mm as I only got around 6k on the CSL out of a set and that was fully geo'd

[sebulban]

GaryF said:

As already noted, when just fitting new tyres, I've never had to have a wheel alignment done. If the previous set were borked with evident uneven wear, then yes, a full alignment should also have been done as well.

No major harm done thankfully for you.

No mate.

The computer advised the PSM was not working which made me slow down.... then the shuddering started and i veered into hard shoulder to a stop.

Apparently they now need to also put in new rear suspension adjustment bolts too.

[Evolved]

sebulban said:

To me, a layman, they look new on the outside. As they did to the naked eye. As they are. After an accident I can understand they are dirty in my pictures. But dealer ones showed them better.

AA guy AND Porsche engineer have confirmed the "issue."

I feel like I'm being accused of trying to dibble something here haaha!

Not accusing you of anything, but something isn't adding up and the AA man sounds like he doesn't know what he's talking about.