World Athletic Championships.
Discussion
lerate said:
Is 9.58 suspicious to you?
Have you looked at the link above? If so thoughts
Errm-you still aren't answering my question-if 9.58 is dodgy then what time to you isn't dodgy-what are you basing your suspicions on?Have you looked at the link above? If so thoughts
I have read the link now-it's a drug dealer saying you need drugs to win. He's hardly going to say you can do it without drugs is he? He and most of the athletes he claimed to have supplied got caught and although he boasts of 'undetectable drugs' the bilogical passport and retrospective testing has changed the doping landscape since he was active. There is also nothing in the article to link Bolt to doping-the thread title is misleading.
I don't believe 9.58 is dirty, it's the product of a supremely talented athlete at the peak of his abilities running on a very fast track with the best competition in the world and a favourable tailwind.
johnxjsc1985 said:
WTF was that all about complete nonsens
In the world relay championships that they hold in the Bahamas they do boxing style entries-but it works because they can dim the lights (no field events), only light up the tunnel and make it quite dramatic.Having them coming out of some big doors isn't quite the same!
Putting aside the "who is taking what substance" for a moment, here is a piece from the BBC website about what Mo Farah has to do to dominate ...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/34096616
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/34096616
Lots of people in the world run though so the pool of competition throughout the world is huge at every distance. Few sports are more inclusive than running. And nothing in sport is more inclusive than the 100M sprint, we all remember who was the fastest kid in our class at school don't we?
Farah is the best middle distance runner in the world at this moment and far away the best track tactician. But it is clear that he targets championships over anything else and is timed to peak for the big events - Is he capable of a world record? I don't know but the end of season is coming up so it is the ideal time to give it a go.
By the way I liked the relay team introductions. I can understand people wanting to retain a certain purity in track and field but I think that there is a need to compete with other spectator sports and add a little theatre to proceedings. The competitors have the greatest physiques on the planet, shorn of all unnecessary bulk or showy muscle. It is not a sin to revel in the beauty and power of youth.
Farah is the best middle distance runner in the world at this moment and far away the best track tactician. But it is clear that he targets championships over anything else and is timed to peak for the big events - Is he capable of a world record? I don't know but the end of season is coming up so it is the ideal time to give it a go.
By the way I liked the relay team introductions. I can understand people wanting to retain a certain purity in track and field but I think that there is a need to compete with other spectator sports and add a little theatre to proceedings. The competitors have the greatest physiques on the planet, shorn of all unnecessary bulk or showy muscle. It is not a sin to revel in the beauty and power of youth.
272BHP said:
The best way to work out if a power athlete (sprinter/jumper/thrower) is pharmaceutically enhanced is easy - are they in contention for a medal? if they are then they are taking something, it really is as simple as that these days.
Jess Ennis?Greg Rutherford?
And does "these days" exclude:
Jonathan Edwards?
Steve Backley?
Tessa Sanderson?
Daley Thompson?
And if so why?
272BHP said:
Lots of people in the world run though so the pool of competition throughout the world is huge at every distance. Few sports are more inclusive than running. And nothing in sport is more inclusive than the 100M sprint, we all remember who was the fastest kid in our class at school don't we?
I think you need to look up the difference between "competition" and "participation". Greg66 said:
I think you need to look up the difference between "competition" and "participation".
You don't think there is much competitive running throughout the world? you need to get out more. Most of us get filtered out very early though. Lets face it if you can't run 11 secs as a 14yr old then you are wasting your time going into sprinting it really is as simple and as cruel as that.Any kid who runs close to that at school sports day will get people knocking on his parents door soon enough.
272BHP said:
Greg66 said:
I think you need to look up the difference between "competition" and "participation".
You don't think there is much competitive running throughout the world? you need to get out more. Most of us get filtered out very early though. Lets face it if you can't run 11 secs as a 14yr old then you are wasting your time going into sprinting it really is as simple and as cruel as that.Any kid who runs close to that at school sports day will get people knocking on his parents door soon enough.
The pool of competitive runners is pretty tiny though.
wjb said:
Bolt's 9.58 isn't as bad as this imo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mrt9yZL8dbI
Great bit of commentary, "no one can run that fast"
Correct.
If the women are all on drugs nowadays they're not very good at taking them as they cant get anywhere near Flo-Jo. Or for that matter the 400m and 800m records. Flo-Jo's 100m time was basically Daley Thompson speed. And he was really fast for a decathlete.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mrt9yZL8dbI
Great bit of commentary, "no one can run that fast"
Correct.
ash73 said:
I don't think people should make accusations without evidence. Once caught show no mercy, but people/athletes are innocent until proven guilty.
Well said. it gets on my tits how people specualte and call people liars and cheats without so much as a slightest bit of evidence.Are the drugs in Sport absolutely is everyone on them NO!.
Randy Winkman said:
If the women are all on drugs nowadays they're not very good at taking them as they cant get anywhere near Flo-Jo. Or for that matter the 400m and 800m records. Flo-Jo's 100m time was basically Daley Thompson speed. And he was really fast for a decathlete.
Athletics is much cleaner now than it was in the past. Cleaner in that they cannot take the mega doses Flo-Jo took without falling foul of the detectors. Without doubt her times should be struck from the record book. These days its all about maximising hormonal profile - some of them don't even believe it is cheating. The doctors/coaches convince them that their hormone levels are less than optimal and that they are disadvantaged with regards to the competition.
There is a 3 monkeys approach to athletics these days but now that the genie is out of the bottle there is no way of putting the bugger back in. People bend the rules in every sport don't they though? I am struggling to think of a professional sport that is not beset by cheaters in some form or another. Anyone know any?
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