Been roped in to helping step son get a decent car

Been roped in to helping step son get a decent car

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Farmer Geddon

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212 posts

106 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Hello pistonheads,

Exactly what one should be doing on a Friday night - trawling the classifieds for a car for my wife's lad.

As the 'car bloke' in the family, people always seem to ask for my help when buying cars, but in truth all I'm good at is changing the oil or brakes really! Nonetheless, I am tasked with helping my stepson to look for and view cars.

He's 23 so wants something a bit stylish, as they do. He's had a few bigger and powerful cars, not the typical young lads car history, so suggestions other than hot hatches welcomed and encouraged here. He's very picky and has so far turned down my suggestions so perhaps you lovely people can help out.

Criteria:

Fair few miles per week so needs to be comfy, possibly auto,
Refined and quiet,
Good enough street cred for a young lad,
Reliable - not necessarily cheap to maintain but something that won't leave him stranded,
Preferably petrol,
Max 5.5k although I may be able to help him out with a little more if the right car came up, this being said, he's keen to spend less than the budget.

So far he's only seen a 55 plate Audi A6 3.2 FSI that he likes - and it does look rather smart but I'm a bit of an audi/vag reliability sceptic myself.

My suggestion of a golf gti didnt go down well and my suggestion of a Mondeo was laughed at, for obvious reasons...
5 series was given a thumbs up but let's be honest a 5 series at this budget will probably be at an age or mileage where stuff will need doing and need some money spending, as will the audi no doubt

Thanks in advance for your suggestions and I will of course update the thread when he buys something with pics.


justanother5tar

1,314 posts

125 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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330ci/d Auto would be my choice.

BorkFactor

7,263 posts

158 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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How much space does he need / want seeing as you are looking at A6s and 5 series?

Had my E46 328i since I was 19, 23 now, and it has been brilliant so what about something like a 330i Sport? Could get a lovely one for that money and change.

That money will get you a very nice E39 530i as well, and they are generally pretty reliable if you get a good one.

Ghost91

2,971 posts

110 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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I've recently bought a CLK and it's great. Mines a 500 but I'd imagine a 320 would be more than adequate, auto box is quite nice and it's a great for long trips. I'm also 23 and the insurance is pretty good too.

Farmer Geddon

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212 posts

106 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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He doesn't actually need any space at all to be honest! I think he's gone for saloons in the past for refinement and motorway cruising more than anything

He's not a fan of the older bmw's. I've got an E39 and he says 'it's got a whiff of polish factory worker about it'

Charming....

But the newer 5 series aren't that great for the money, it's not what I would spend my 5 grand on that's for sure.
All suggestions I will put forward though, so thank you.

CLK might be a good shout

Pyrolysis

320 posts

117 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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As above. My first thought was a clubsport http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/b...

groundcontrol

1,539 posts

191 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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XJ of some sort.

bockaaarck

393 posts

168 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Lexus GS 300 any good? Reliable, comfortable cruising for £5 - £6k

Farmer Geddon

Original Poster:

212 posts

106 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Pyrolysis said:
As above. My first thought was a clubsport http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/b...
Good choice definitely, as I mentioned though he seems to have an issue with the older shape bmw's, not sure why really as they were and are bloody good!

Farmer Geddon

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106 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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groundcontrol said:
XJ of some sort.
Personally I love these! I didn't think of suggesting them to him because I don't know what they're like reliability wise, do you have any experience of them? Also I reckon he may think he's too young for a Jaaag, but after sitting in one or driving one I'm sure it'll be a different story!

Farmer Geddon

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212 posts

106 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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bockaaarck said:
Lexus GS 300 any good? Reliable, comfortable cruising for £5 - £6k
I'll have a look at some now as I haven't really paid any attention to the newer GS's before

Vaud

50,426 posts

155 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Lexus IS250 SE-L

Amazingly smooth engine, if you get the right spec is a very, very nice place to be.

Skyedriver

17,825 posts

282 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Pretend to be ill, leave home or something
I stopped helping people years and years ago
What I saw as a decent car would be laughed at
What they thought was decent was usually a POS, which I would tell them
They would ignore me, buy the POS then 3 months late blame me or expect me to fix it.....

Ghost91

2,971 posts

110 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Skyedriver said:
Pretend to be ill, leave home or something
I stopped helping people years and years ago
What I saw as a decent car would be laughed at
What they thought was decent was usually a POS, which I would tell them
They would ignore me, buy the POS then 3 months late blame me or expect me to fix it.....
I think a lot of the time a young lad will never want to hear about good cars if they don't look the part... My dads got a mondeo and it's fantastic! Refined, drives well, reliable, loads of kit, and cheap. Perfect for my needs, and if I was sensible if of bought one. But because I'm 23 I didn't and won't, because it's a mondeo.

Back to the original post, the a6 perhaps has the same lump as the r32 golf? If so it's meant to be a good engine, maybe that's not such a bad idea - and being an audi it'll be acceptable for him to drive around in as opposed to some of the more mature cars suggested. With any auto car though a gearbox oil change is always a good idea if it hasn't been done already

Farmer Geddon

Original Poster:

212 posts

106 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Vaud said:
Lexus IS250 SE-L

Amazingly smooth engine, if you get the right spec is a very, very nice place to be.
They look nice enough, possibly slightly out of budget though unfortunately

Farmer Geddon

Original Poster:

212 posts

106 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Skyedriver said:
Pretend to be ill, leave home or something
I stopped helping people years and years ago
What I saw as a decent car would be laughed at
What they thought was decent was usually a POS, which I would tell them
They would ignore me, buy the POS then 3 months late blame me or expect me to fix it.....
I know, I know.... I was stupid for agreeing to help - however I've made it clear that it has nothing to do with me I'm only giving the best advice I can - although I'm sure it'll come back to bite me at some point. The only thing I can do is be the voice of reason about service history and pointing out some potential Bork if I know about any

Farmer Geddon

Original Poster:

212 posts

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Friday 28th August 2015
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Ghost91 said:
I think a lot of the time a young lad will never want to hear about good cars if they don't look the part... My dads got a mondeo and it's fantastic! Refined, drives well, reliable, loads of kit, and cheap. Perfect for my needs, and if I was sensible if of bought one. But because I'm 23 I didn't and won't, because it's a mondeo.

Back to the original post, the a6 perhaps has the same lump as the r32 golf? If so it's meant to be a good engine, maybe that's not such a bad idea - and being an audi it'll be acceptable for him to drive around in as opposed to some of the more mature cars suggested. With any auto car though a gearbox oil change is always a good idea if it hasn't been done already
It's pretty much this in a nutshell, it's got to have the right image as well as be reasonably quick, good on the motorway and all the other million things on the list of criteria from a fussy youngster! The Mondeos are good and would do the job but I suspect he doesn't want to be turning up to take a girl out on a date in a mondy that looks like it's probably his dads

KAgantua

3,868 posts

131 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Fair play for helping your step son - I assuming its because he has profound learning difficulties and that this is the reason he cant choose his own fking car

The101

369 posts

105 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Audi TT, BMW X5 if he's not keen on the older saloons, I'd imagine these are still 'cool' enough, vectra vxr, mercedes clk, Chrysler crossfire, mazda 6 or 3 mps, saab 9-3 or 9-5...


Farmer Geddon

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212 posts

106 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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KAgantua said:
Fair play for helping your step son - I assuming its because he has profound learning difficulties and that this is the reason he cant choose his own fking car
No need for that really is there? I'm trying to help him not buy a complete dog of a car, we were all young once and often blinded by something nice and shiny instead of looking at it with a sensible head on. I'm not going to make the choice for him but hopefully make sure he buys something half decent. I don't think it's an uncommon thing to take a parent with you when looking at cars at this age, it also helps being taken more seriously by the car dealer/seller.